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Let me clarify. The mechanic works at the Ford House. He also has access to another work place. Where he does the work I don't know, I assume it's off premises. The cooler is Ford and with the sand flushed out it should go from 85K to 100K.
After checking around a dealership can change the emission if the owner signs a paper stating it not for street use. In other words for racing or farm use.
After checking around a dealership can change the emission if the owner signs a paper stating it not for street use. In other words for racing or farm use.
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I get with your point, and I agree with it. I said "even if" because to me my time is valued differently depending on what I'm doing, and 50-100 is higher than I'd value myself for this kind of job. If I can laze along and do an oil cooler an hour or two at a time over 4 nights, then those hours are maybe worth $15 each because all I'd be doing is drinking beer and watching reruns, and part time wrenching that isn't critical is an enjoyable hobby for me. If I needed my truck tomorrow or I was facing a deadline at work at the same time, those same hours could be worth $200 each and going to a dealer and paying their shop rate would be worth it. Plus, for this exact job I'd have to put a lot more time into a BPD install that I've never done before, so the break even for me on this is still so many oil coolers into the future that I doubt I'd ever go through that many. Even if I did, $2100 right now is more to me than $500 a piece spread out over 10 years. The guy asked why mess with OEM... because it's a heckuva lot cheaper, time for labor included.
It's all variable, sometimes my time isn't worth anything. Just ask my boss about what he thinks of my bill-rate while I'm on FTE
It's all variable, sometimes my time isn't worth anything. Just ask my boss about what he thinks of my bill-rate while I'm on FTE
See, to me its worth the extra money for the superior oil cooler system. I think the BDP system surpasses the stock system by a wide margin. It is a very large oil cooler and I would imagine greater cooling capacity than the little Rubik's Cube factory cooler. I really like it on my truck.
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The BPD cooler with the winter deal is almost exactly TEN times the cost as OEM.... it had better come with magical fairy dust or something, because that's an absolute crap ton of money to meet the exact same spec as OEM. You could stud and upgrade the engine for the cost difference in the oil cooler.
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Anyone who has seen the BDP Oil Cooler Kit in person can attest that it is more than a simple oil cooler. The BDP Oil Cooler Kit is not cheap, but they definitely have some money in their R&D. So they are forced to pass that cost on, otherwise they wouldn't be doing what they do. I have been down to BDP (just across town) several times. They are a small business and its a busy shop. I dont see any mega buck cars around there and the owners are right there so its not like they are 1%ers. I really dont think they are gouging anyone. I am in Phoenix and really dont know much about the cold weather issues with it. If money is tight the OEM Cooler is fine. If you have a little extra money the BDP might be what you are looking for. I recommend it.
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I don't think they're gouging anyone, it's probably a very well made custom piece that just happens to cost ten times what a stock replacement part costs. So again, he asked why mess with an OEM cooler over BPD..... my answer is to spend $2,245 less on parts to only fix the oil cooler. Regardless of the quality of the replacement, that's a LOT of cash.
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I don't think they're gouging anyone, it's probably a very well made custom piece that just happens to cost ten times what a stock replacement part costs.
So again, you asked why mess with an OEM cooler over BPD..... to spend $2,245 less in parts to only fix the oil cooler.
So again, you asked why mess with an OEM cooler over BPD..... to spend $2,245 less in parts to only fix the oil cooler.
Its a awesome Oil Cooler System and it will cost more than the stock one.
I should add, I have no affiliation with BDP, just a consumer.
Good luck.
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I wouldn't go by that. Not everyone goes for the mega buck cars. I know a guy that owns majority of a multi million dollar public company that he started and he buys used domestic vehicles that are at least 4 years old when he gets them. But he does have a multi million dollar boat that he travels from Maine to Florida and back in. However, he takes that used vehicle into work and around town. So depending on what you are exposed to with him, you may never know that he was very much a 1%er (actually at his level, I think he is a .04%er).
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I wouldn't go by that. Not everyone goes for the mega buck cars. I know a guy that owns majority of a multi million dollar public company that he started and he buys used domestic vehicles that are at least 4 years old when he gets them. But he does have a multi million dollar boat that he travels from Maine to Florida and back in. However, he takes that used vehicle into work and around town. So depending on what you are exposed to with him, you may never know that he was very much a 1%er (actually at his level, I think he is a .04%er).
Back on topic.
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Fascinating topic for me, one observation I haven't seen mentioned on FTE about the coolant filter is that it only gets out half of the crud at best at any given moment. The other half is going right into the oil cooler. I'm happy to report my dirt cheap solution (see my other board posts if interested) to that is working nicely with about 1500 miles on it.
BTW flushing with VC-9 helped but didn't remove all of the funk in my system.
I can see the remainder is sitting in my coolant filter (see gallery photos) at the moment.
Cheers
BTW flushing with VC-9 helped but didn't remove all of the funk in my system.
I can see the remainder is sitting in my coolant filter (see gallery photos) at the moment.
Cheers
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