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Hi everyone...I found a used 97 powerstroke engine (ready to drop in) at a salvage yard today. It is sitting in a really banged up 97 F-350 Crew Cab Truck. The junk yard man has 5 powerstrokes. This one I am thinking of buying is rated A. Three others are rated A and one is rated B.
"A" means less than 200,000 miles and "B" means more than 200,000 miles. The one I am looking at has 179,000 supposedly and he wants $2062.50 for it out the door.
I was thinking of rebuilding my 86 6.9 and turboing it, but this powerstroke would cost much less.
1. Is that a good price for the engine?
2. Will it fit in my 1986 F-250 XLT? He, the junk yard man says yes.
3. Is this something I should take a chance on?
The engine looks pretty clean with no obvious oil every where etc...and it looks to have been taken care of.
1. Its in the ball park. 1500-2500 is seen as reasonable in my neck of the woods, so sounds about right.
2.Yes it will fit. Your zf-5 will love it
3. If you bring it home, i would do, at the very least, the oil cooler o-rings, reseal the dipstick tube, and maybe do an EBPV delete if you want to while the motor is out. Youll thank yourself down the road.
It would also be a great time to *** an intercooler if you'd like. You can get 7.3 or 6.0 intercoolers for 150-200 bucks all day.
Even though it will fit and bolt in, that is the easy part. You will need all the electronics to run that motor. By the time you buy the computer, wiring, the go peddel, and other things you need, along with the engine, it would probably be cheaper to overhaul the 6.9. Don't get me wrong, the 7.3 powerstroke is a great engine. My 97 has 214k on it now, and I have had very little problems with it. But retro fitting it into the 86 is not a simple bolt in affair. If you decide to go this way, get the whole truck for all the rest of the parts you will need.
I would not spend anywhere near that for an engine with that many miles... Yes we all know the IDI's and 7.3 PSD's last a long time, and are great engines, however, I spent $1750 on my IDIT in what seemed to be great shape, with 160k on it... 15k later its got more blow by than Id like it to have... I could have rebuilt a 7.3 or 6.9 for what I got my engine for, and had a fresh engine... Moral of the story is you never know what that engine has been through, and dropping 2k on something you know nothing about isnt a very wise decision...
Unless you plan on going big with power (400+ whp), there is no reason to swap to a PSD... And if your going for those sorts of power anyway, might as well swap in a cummins...
Even though it will fit and bolt in, that is the easy part. You will need all the electronics to run that motor. By the time you buy the computer, wiring, the go peddel, and other things you need, along with the engine, it would probably be cheaper to overhaul the 6.9. Don't get me wrong, the 7.3 powerstroke is a great engine. My 97 has 214k on it now, and I have had very little problems with it. But retro fitting it into the 86 is not a simple bolt in affair. If you decide to go this way, get the whole truck for all the rest of the parts you will need.
This is why I love this forum...Acts just like a thinktank or roundtable that helps a guy figure things out to come up with a good plan.
You're right farmert...I know what I have now and really the 6.9 doesn't need rebuilt yet and I really just need the torque a turbo would give a stock 6.9 to pull my 5th wheel in the flatlands. Besides the old girl is easy to understand and work on. I don't think I want all the electronics since they would cost so much more and I would have to pay someone to fix it if it brokedown, maintenance, etc...
I was just trying to see all my options...I think my best bet is to just put a turbo and exhaust on the old girl and run her. Later when she needs rebuilt I can do just that.
This is why I love this forum...Acts just like a thinktank or roundtable that helps a guy figure things out to come up with a good plan.
You're right farmert...I know what I have now and really the 6.9 doesn't need rebuilt yet and I really just need the torque a turbo would give a stock 6.9 to pull my 5th wheel in the flatlands. Besides the old girl is easy to understand and work on. I don't think I want all the electronics since they would cost so much more and I would have to pay someone to fix it if it brokedown, maintenance, etc...
I was just trying to see all my options...I think my best bet is to just put a turbo and exhaust on the old girl and run her. Later when she needs rebuilt I can do just that.
BeerCan500
I think youre right on there. Grab a used turbo kit, and slap it on. Studs would be a great addition and good insurance.
Hey man, when you say headstuds...can they be installed with the engine in the truck? Do the headstuds replace the stock head bolts? If they do they must be just a little longer than stock and with the ability to be torqued down more than stock right?
If I have to pull the engine I should go ahead and r & r the oil cooler with new o-rings as well as other seals and gaskets to huh?
I was planning on new ip and injectors with installation kits when she gets the turbo...
AFAIK you can do studs in the truck, however you may have to pull the air box (AC) and brake booster assembly. As for the studs themselves, its not so much that you torque em down more, but they almost double the clamp load on the heads themselves do to the fine thread ends.
New IP and injectors is good also, dont forget return lines and caps to go with.
If the engine doesnt need rebuilt... well i wouldnt rebuild it. Falls under if it aint broke dont fix it haha
yes.
since it's an '86 you should swap in the 7.3l rockers.because i think the 6.9l didn't get this much improved update until '87.someone will will correct me if i don't recall the years correctly.i could be off,and your '86 is all set there.why i even partially remember some of these things is beyond me anyway lol.