Hey fellas,
Just to start off I want to thank you all, as I have been perusing this forum for quite a while, and have found a fund of knowledge to help me with my newly acquired '64 f100.
Now to the question. Has anyone had any experience with sound deadening? I was thinking about it purely from a road noise aspect, and am wondering if it makes that much of a difference to use Dynamat, fatmat, e-dead...(ETC.).

Thanks,
Tony

 

Makes a big difference. Home depot sells a tar backed aluminum tape in their roofing dept that is effective and way cheaper. Comes in 6" wide rolls.

 

I'm not a fan of most of the aftermarket sound insulation products as most are tar/petroluem based which you will not find in any oem application and is extremely damgerous in the event of a fire for your vehicle as even high heat generation tranferred to the product causes decomposition, in essence it reverts back to its original form.....petroleum, and act much like gasoline inside your vehicle.

There are excellent products available that are non-petroleum based....

 

OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer: FoMoCo.

Roll the windows up, remove the door access panels, look inside and you will see: black petroleum based undercoating used as sound deadener smeared on the door.

No EPA back then. This is the same stinky goop (when first applied, smells like a dead fish) dealers and gas stations used to spray on undercarriages of vehicles to prevent rust.

 

I will be using Mega Mat when i do my truck, its from fatmat but is supposed to work better than the normal fatmat. Dynamat was just too expensive for me but mega mat is supposed to work as well for half the cost. But i havent actually used either thats just off of the word of a couple local builders.

 

Yes, you are right, but today we have other options that are readily available and used by the OEM's provided by other aftermarket suppliers.

 

Thanks for the advice gentlemen. Much appreciated.

 

Must work for dynamat........

In case you have not noticed everything in a car today is flammable except the HHS body.

In case you never noticed there is a 19 gallon gas tank full of highly flammable fuel less than four inches from your ****...

Screw dynamat. Peel and seel great sound dampening material.... - THE H.A.M.B.

Here is the guys on the HAMB discussing it. Read and learn.

Garbz

 

I've used this on a # of my toys. This stuff has been around for a long time. Great stuff.

Bonded Logic Heat/Sound Insulation - JCWhitney

 

No , professional firefighter, over 500 vehicle fire investigations in my career (documented)- many involved "classic or modified cars" whose owners installed insulation with high levels of petroleum based products....made for a fire that could not be extinguished fast enough due to the rapid spread by onlookers nor professional fire fighters.......well documented & is a part of national standards training for "special hazards- unseen"

second item: "plastic & carbon fiber" body panels- again, you are correct. The mfg's have never realsed the full specifics of the composition as it is considered "proprietary information" even under the hazardous material laws/regulations both at state & federal levels, but, based upon information provided and testdone in both credential labs & field elements it is (and has been for 10+ years) that 1. standard fire fighting protective garmets (turnout boots, pants, coat, hood, helmet, gloves & their vapor barrors) and self contained breathing apparatus do not provide the minimu require personal protection for offensive fire suppression operation involving vehicles mfg with exterior plastic body panels & carbon fiber....This requires a fully encapsulated chemical protective suit with a fire resistive overgarmet (osha & industry standard). In lieu of this, fire fighters may use alternate methods of protection, by standard of practice this includes positining themselves upwind and if necessary employing "power fans" to blow the smoke away from them to engage in offensive operations. The additional hazard is with carbon fiber, although the fire is out there is a residual hazard- particulate matter that becomes airborne (even during transit by the tow service)- that is similar to asbestos with equal/greater hazard. each agency is required to have written policy on how to handle this but in general (as an example) if a aircraft is involved that is made of carbon fiber, that has partially or substantially burned, a "recovery team" is sent in which they essentially wrap the aircraft and all body components in "plastic wrap" prior to transport to contain the particulates.

BTW, all fire fighter protective gear is considered contaminated and require rising with water on the scene prior to departure & secondaly, it must be washed in a "special waahing machine" (which all depts have) upon return to the station.

With hybrids, with the exception of small agencies who do not possess the resources inhouse, I am unaware of any major metro fire department that does not respond 1 hazardous materials response unit with fire suppression resources when any of these vehicles are involved in an accident or other similar type event (fire, etc.)

I won't go into my credentials specifically, but I am recognized as an "expert" both in california & nationally in the field of hazardous substances & chemical related events.

 

First and foremost; Welcome to FTE!! Used a role of jute with aluminum backing on the floor, cut approx. 3" short along the edges and then used alum. tape to secure it to the floor, certainly cut down the noise, and although I have never gotten the heater to warm the cab on a cold winter morning, padding on the floor certainly helps. Subsequently installed carpet which cut the sound substantially. Purchased a product made by Evercoat, comes in 12"x!2" petroleum based sheets, simular to thinly rolled tar with a cellophane backing that is remove and suppose to adhere to any surface; warning, strongly suggest not using them, particularly inside door panels!!!

 

Tony, like Dave said jute and carpet will make it so you can carry on a conversation without having to shout. Any of the stick down products are a bi#%h to remove after being there for a while. Welcome to FTE.

 

Thanks again. All of this has been helpful.

 

Very familiar with SOP for Haz-Mat.

I even managed to keep my legs intact from flying drive shafts, never stepped on LOX or managed to kill myself in a few flash overs while progressing from Probationary to Chief of Department.

All vehicles have dangers even model T's. First responders are trained as to the dangers and should have written SOP in place, but that does not mean we should not place materials in our personal property for comfort.

Back in my day no one washed their gear as the more ash soot and it smelled the better the rep. Lots has changes since 9-11.

Garbz

 

AHHHH !! That new truck smell !!