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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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WTF are you all talking about? There is no such thing as a rat rod on this forum. We call these trucks strictly by what they really are, or most closely represent:

1948 F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8
1949 F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8
1950 F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8
1951 F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8
1952 F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8
1953 F100, F250, F350, F400, F500, F600, F700, F800, F900, F950, ...

Oh, Hell, you get the idea...... I hope.

It can only be titled as one thing, according to the DMV.
So there is no Hot Rods, Street Rods, ect. on this forum then? Sure we know the year and make of our trucks but we all have different plans for them. Such as restoring or customizing. Dropping or lifting there are different categories of trucks. My fathers rat is a 48-50, 56, pre48(engine), and many more before its done. Its all Ford Truck. Just the same as say a guy who likes some other engine in his truck. Hows that different? Rat is the same just with out paint. Yes there are rats that are unsafe but that doesn't mean they all are. If everyone did the same thing car shows would be boring.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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This is the thread that never ends! Yes it goes on and on my friends!
I don't remember the rest of the words?????
I think the OP succeeded in "stirring the pot"

Is this really worth the effort?

Ok, well, I'm goin on to the next thread...Where is that thread about what's better? Ford vs. Chevy? or Hyundai vs Kia? ugh...well enjoy!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff and Nicolle
I think the OP succeeded in "stirring the pot"
EXACTLY! Time to move on. Like I said at the beginning of this thing, the more you stir it, the more it stinks.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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Time to move on? More like time to go to bed! It's 11pm west coast time, what are you still doing up?

Like I said before, rat rods exist but they aren't a topic for a Ford truck forum, unless they are Ford trucks. If, however, you are genuinely interested in the topic, I came across an interesting history of the rat rod at Autoculture – History of the Rat Rod « Autoculture. And guess what? It has a forum for discussing it! And even a couple of Ford trucks, albeit pre-'48. Knock yourselves out.

Now I'm going back to reading a jolipes magizine before turning out the light.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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Dang it I beat a dead horse....
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by South of BC
Time to move on? More like time to go to bed! It's 11pm west coast time, what are you still doing up?

Like I said before, rat rods exist but they aren't a topic for a Ford truck forum, unless they are Ford trucks. If, however, you are genuinely interested in the topic, I came across an interesting history of the rat rod at Autoculture – History of the Rat Rod « Autoculture. And guess what? It has a forum for discussing it! And even a couple of Ford trucks, albeit pre-'48. Knock yourselves out.

Now I'm going back to reading a jolipes magizine before turning out the light.
Good link, thanks for sharing that
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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I'm saying you can call them whatever you want, but it's still titled by the year and make/model. At least none of my titles say "ROD" anywhere.

I present "Mater" a 1949 Ford F1. Some people call it a rat rod, some people call it an old truck. To each their own.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 08:59 AM
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The door sign Kicks butt,Havi.
 
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Originally Posted by havi
I'm saying you can call them whatever you want, but it's still titled by the year and make/model. At least none of my titles say "ROD" anywhere.

I present "Mater" a 1949 Ford F1. Some people call it a rat rod, some people call it an old truck. To each their own.
That right there is a diamond in the rough! Long may it live!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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If I had a shop now that I am retired I would take a 48 to 50 Ranch Wagon and make a Ranchero out of it.
This one is already started:





1948 Ford rat rod truck. RATCHERO

Kind of stole my idea:



 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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I would use the Wagon body of a 48 or 50. Try and make it look like a ford prototype. 3 on the tree with overdrive and a Merc Flatty. Two tone like a root beer metallic sides and tanish cream top and bottom. I would love to see one of you Guru's Photoshop that here. Now I am going to go and Google up some 48 to 50 wagon pic's and dream
 
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Here's my concept woody using a F-1 pickup base:



What would this be considered, not a rat rod I hope. I don't think a darksider either.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Here's my concept woody using a F-1 pickup base:



What would this be considered, not a rat rod I hope. I don't think a darksider either.
It would qualify as a custom back in the 50's or a Surf Wagon which was/is bad back then
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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I am in my 70's and grow up building hot rods in the 40's and 50's. I have many magazines from that time. I have to agree with 4ti8 I have never seen anything like these rat rods . We all know what we are talking about ( those deathtrap abortions ) Anyone thinking that the home built hot rods of the 40's or 50's influenced these clown cars is insulting to anyone who grow up in that time.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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I am in my 70's and grow up building hot rods in the 40's and 50's. I have many magazines from that time. I have to agree with 4ti8 I have never seen anything like these rat rods . We all know what we are talking about ( those deathtrap abortions ) Anyone thinking that the home built hot rods of the 40's or 50's influenced these clown cars is insulting to anyone who grow up in that time.
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I'm an old guy too, maybe not quite as old, but old nonetheless. However I'm not just expressing my opinion and preaching it as gospel because I was there. I researched the history of the term 'Rat Rod'. I've attached two photos of the original cars that the term was coined from, the owner of 'Eights and Aces' is credited with coining the term. They aren't "deathtrap abortion clown cars." They were built to thumb their noses at the Boyd Cottington creations. Later the "deathtrap abortion clown cars" came along and embraced the term 'Rat Rod', to the dismay of the original Rat Rodders, who refer to it as devolution of the form.

Here is a quote: "What started out as a rejuvenating breath of fresh air in the stagnating culture of arena rods in the early Nineties has, somehow, become a cartoon version of itself: poorly-built heaps cobbled together by misguided “ratrodders” who revel in their rusty buckets, throwing their empties in the parking lot and yelling “goldchainer!” and “ol’ skool!” in the same sentence. Shame is, they don’t really have any idea what got them there in the first place."

Again, here's a link to the history of the RR. It's a long read, ten pages. Yeah, I know, ten pages doesn't sound like a lot, but in the internet age with its short attention spans....Autoculture – History of the Rat Rod « Autoculture

All I can say is thankfully the goldchainers didn't call their 'Crap Rods' 'Fat-Fendered Fords' and have it stick!
 
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