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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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First long haul

Finally got to go on vacation to Montana. 3 passes and many long hills with grade above 3% made for a long day going over from Washington. EGT's ranging anywhere from 600 to 1100(short periods) and 90+ degrees also made for a long first trip. Turbo also made it up to a wopping 4 or 5 psi. A/C worked great down hill, and the heater worked excellent on the uphill. I think I lost about 5lbs. Averaged 10 mpg towing around 8000lbs, which I don't feel too bad because all the guys I talked to at the pump in newer trucks were getting the same. Though they could go 60 to 70 mph up the hills and passes while I was doing 35 to 45.

So what do you think, do you think this sounds about right? Does anything sound out of wack?

sorry for the rambling. I am just happy I made it the whole trip without a total disaster happening.

Duane
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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bring it to the WA idi dyno day and well help you get it figured out https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-dyno-day.html

the way back from your trip that vantage pass had to be the worst? what gear did you use?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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breakdown of passes and speed from Montana to Washington.

Lookout pass- 35 mph 3rd gear
4th of July Pass- 40-45 mph 3rd and 4th gear
Vantage sucked the most, 2nd and 3rd gear, average 25 to 35 MPH
Snoquamie Pass- 35 to 60 3rd through 5th gear

Thank goodness the weather was cooler the whole trip back compared to the 90+ going to Montana 2 weeks ago.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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Dang, I'm guessing you were near 3k rpms on those too? Have u adjusted your WG at all?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jaroh
breakdown of passes and speed from Montana to Washington.

Lookout pass- 35 mph 3rd gear
4th of July Pass- 40-45 mph 3rd and 4th gear
Vantage sucked the most, 2nd and 3rd gear, average 25 to 35 MPH
Snoquamie Pass- 35 to 60 3rd through 5th gear

Thank goodness the weather was cooler the whole trip back compared to the 90+ going to Montana 2 weeks ago.
I would rather have just stayed in Montana permanently than suffer that trip twice.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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Dang, I'm guessing you were near 3k rpms on those too? Have u adjusted your WG at all?
I didn't pay much attention to the rpm's. Mostly kept my eye on the pyro and the temp gauges. Not that the temp gauge is all that accurate, but I was worried more about overheating than anything. Aluminum radiator and new fan clutch did a great job at dropping the temp quickly. I would also give it a little bit less foot when the pyro was around 1000.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lemonshindig
I would rather have just stayed in Montana permanently than suffer that trip twice.
After being in the Air Force for 22 years, yes I fully agree with your statement. I hate coming back here. Right now if I could find a descent paying job I would stay for good! Unfortunately I have to give one more year before I retire. Maybe next year!!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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Well...we welcome IDI drivers to montana...should have hit me up, I could have helped you figure it out....
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 01:45 AM
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Well...we welcome IDI drivers to montana...should have hit me up, I could have helped you figure it out....
I remembered from my last trip that you said to hit you up. The only time I spent in Missoula was to drop off scrap iron from my property and driving through to go to my dads in Hamilton for camping and fishing near Sula. Wish I had more time to goof off, thats for sure.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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that's a factory turbo with the crushed DP still or?
when was her last tuneup?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 01:06 AM
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that's a factory turbo with the crushed DP still or?
when was her last tuneup?
It has the factory turbo and the banks down pipe. I bought this off of my dad, so all i can go off of is what he said he changed. He changed the glow plugs, glow plug relay, "newer" IP off a rebuilt motor with 7000 miles and new injectors. He also did all the fuel lines just before I bought it.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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If he didnt turn the pump up, you could do that for more power, IF you feel safe with the EGT'S. If you were already tipping 1100 degrees on hills it might be a little sketchy turning the pump up.

you said you were maing 3-5 psi. Look into adjusting the wastegate to allow more boost. Just shorten the actuator rod. That should get you running pretty good
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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You should be able to get more boost than 5 psi. Increasing the boost to 10 psi will give a lot better performance as you will have more air for best combustion. You could add more fuel to match, but just the extra air will help a lot. 14.5 psi is atmospheric (close enough for my example here) pressure and you are adding 5 psi. 19.5/14.5 = about 35% more air than naturally aspirated. At 10 psi you have 24.5/14.5 = 69% additional air going into the engine than NA.

The above is very approximate, but you get the idea. 10 psi should not be any trouble for your engine and will make it run stronger. 8000 lbs trailer load is a decent load for the truck, although certainly within what the truck can handle. Just go a bit slower.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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So I went and took the wastegate off and to my suprise somebody has already been there. The rod had a couple of nice bends in it and there were vice grip marks. I decided to give it a whirl and drilled out the dimples as best as I could and started turning the rod end off. Made it one whole turn easily and then the rod fell apart in my hand. From what it looked like there was only a thread or two holding the rod on. So my next delima is to find a new wastegate actuator. Can anybody give me some suggestions and or part numbers that you have used. I need to get this back up and running for all the crap I need to do before I deploy next month.

Thanks, Duane
 
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