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76 crew cab w/ 7.3 L powerstroke???

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Im planning on dropping a 96 7.3 stroker motor and 5-speed tranny w/transfer case, into my 76 crew cab 4x4. Has anyone done this??? If so, any tips???
P.S. Im gonna call it the old stroke haha
 
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I THINK by 1996 the injector pump was electronic. (I could be wrong) so you'll need the harness and computer if this is the case. I KNOW the 1993 non turbo was still a mechanical pump, so all you need to get it running is a 12 volt wire and a fuel line. (and wire the glow plug controller of course) The manual trans makes it REALLY easy.
 
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Originally Posted by earthquake68
I THINK by 1996 the injector pump was electronic. (I could be wrong) so you'll need the harness and computer if this is the case. I KNOW the 1993 non turbo was still a mechanical pump, so all you need to get it running is a 12 volt wire and a fuel line. (and wire the glow plug controller of course) The manual trans makes it REALLY easy.
Didn't 94's have a turbo and mechanical injection? (They weren't power strokes either, were they?)
 
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You could be right. The only reason I know about the '93 is because I owned one.
 
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the 7.3 Powerstroke was introduced in the later half of 1994 some might have made it into late 1994 models but most were 1995 models, they were all electronically controlled only the old non turbo Harvester International IDI engines were mechanically controlled. There are turbo kits for the pre powerstroke engines but none of the parts are the same as it is a completely different engine. I believe the last powerstroke engines were made in 2003 and I know California got dual stage injection in 96 and 97 and the rest of the country got it in 99 with the body style update. Electric fuel pumps also replaced the cam driven ones in 99, and the engines with manuals had slightly more hp/tq than the automatics. They also weigh in at just over 900 pounds.
 
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This should be almost exactyl what you`re doing. It`s a ton of work, but will be pretty cool.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-96-frame.html
 
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Didn't 94's have a turbo and mechanical injection? (They weren't power strokes either, were they?)

In 1994 you could get a mechanical 7.3 idi that came stock with a turbo, which is a good improvement over a non-turbo idi, but in terms of power the power-stroke is better than either. It`s just got lots of crazy wires.
 
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As others have said - if you're up to the wiring do a power-joke motor. If not look for an early to mid '94 truck with the turboed 7.3 idi.
Or just hold out for a 1993 turbo.
The 1993 is still mechanical injection, but has more potential - especially when you add a turbo kit.


actually, forget writing a bunch of this - I'll just cut & paste in a BUNCH of info my buddy gave me when I was looking into the 7.3 before I got smart & went cummins



Here's a crude idea of how the Ford diesel has evolved.
83-87 - 6.9 V-Belt, Non-Turbo, Indirect Injection(Mechanical, no Computer)
88-92 - 7.3 V-Belt, Some OE Turbo, Indirect Injection(Mechanical, no Computer)
93 - 7.3 Serpentine, Some OE Turbo, Indirect Injection(Mechanical, no Computer)
94-98.5 - 7.3 First Series Powerstroke (Turbo) and Computer, Some Electronics
98.5 - 03 - 6.0 PowerStroke(Turbo)and Computer, ****load Electronics.

Of course, the newer it is the more power it makes.
An 88 is the International Harvester Motor.
They had a few cooling problems with some of the early 7.3 motors.
If I remember, you have to use an additive in the cooling system.
The original International Trucks had the additive in the cooling system filter.
Ford had to remove the cooling filter to get the motor to fit.

An 88 doesn't have a whole lot of horse power, but it does have a good amount of torque.
About 180 hp and 350 torque for a 1988 7.3.
For comparison, a 99-03 5.4 triton makes about 260 hp and 350 torque.

For what you want to do, an 88 non-computer, would be easier.
Banks does make a kit for that year, that bumps it up to 265 hp and 480 torque, which isn't too bad.
A 99-03 stock 7.3 makes 250 hp and 500 torque.

So, with a banks kit the 88 will make as much power as a stock 03, not too bad.
However, you can chip an 03 and get 370 hp and 750 torque.


1983-88 Ford 6.9L and 1988-92 7.3L NA V8
Ford’s first entrant into the diesel wars came in 1983 with the 6.9L V8. Developed by Navistar/International, it cranked out 170 hp and 315 lbs-ft and out powered the GMs by a good margin but, in the 4x4 lines, was available only in the F250HD and F-350. It’s a very stout engine that’s capable of about 275 hp with the stock injection pump (a DB-2) and add-on turbocharging. The engine could probably handle over 300 hp with a high capacity pump.
The 6.9L lasted until 1988, when it was replaced by the similar 7.3L. Externally they looked almost identical, but inside, the 7.3L had a larger bore for the increased displacement, larger head bolts and (supposedly) improved valve stem seals. Overall, the early 7.3L isn’t considered quite as reliable as the 6.9L, though the 180 hp and 345 lbs-ft were improvements owners liked. Some spec sheets show the last year of 7.3L NA, 1992, with 185 hp and 360 lbs-ft.
The 7.3L NA probably has about the same power potential as the 6.9L because it’s limited by essentially the same injection pump. Again, it needs an add-on turbo kit to bring it up to good power levels. Bear in mind that, like many older diesels, the 6.9 is more or less designed to use small amounts of oil. My own has, even when it had only a few thousand miles. The new valve stem seals on the 7.3L were designed to solve that but had the unexpected bad side effect of causing early valve guide failure.
Typical Specifications
Displacement: 6.9L (420ci)
7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke: 4.00x4.18 inches
4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM: 170 @ 3300
180 @ 3300
Torque @ RPM: 315 @ 1400
345 @ 1400
Compression Ratio: 21.5:1
Injection: Indirect, Mechanical,
Stanadyne Rotary DB-2
Aspiration: Natural
Max EGT: 1250max/950 sustained degrees*
1993-94 Ford 7.3L IDI Turbo V8

The ’93-94 7.3L IDI turbo is one of Ford dieseldom’s forgotten and unsung heroes. It appeared for less than two years and coexisted briefly with the first generation Powerstroke in 1994. It was factory rated for a modest 190 hp and 388 lbs-ft , but sources indicate it was deliberately “tuned down” so as not to out-power the Powerstroke, which was close on the horizon at the time it appeared. With very few mods (pump adjustments, getting rid of the crushed turbo outlet pipe and wastegate adjustments), this engine can make a very easy 225 hp and 440 lbs-ft for almost no money. Internal differences between the turbo and non-turbo 7.3 consist mainly of stouter anodized pistons with larger wrist pins, improved piston rings and Iconel exhaust valves.
Typical Specifications
Displacement: 7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke: 4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM: 190 @ 3000
Torque @ RPM: 388 @ 1400
Compression Ratio: 21.5:1
Injection: Mechanical, Stanadyne Rotary DB-2
Aspiration: Wastegated turbo
Max EGT: 1250 max/1000 sustained
 
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Okay so I decided that when it comes to the ford I want a powerstroke. Wiring kinda scares me but I can figure it out. BUT! I know its a chevy but does anyone know anything about the 6.5 diesel out of a 97 chevy? I think its got the mechanical pump but it came stock with a turbo.
 
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I might want to put that in my truck.
 
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:44 PM
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Junk. plain and simple.
 
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