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Gauges
Hey everyone. Thinking about putting some gauges on after my next paycheck.
I'm wondering which gauges I should use get. I was thinking engine coolant, engine oil temp, tranny temp and exhaust gas temp. The truck is an '05, so no need for a turbo gauge. Also, on the exhaust gas should the sensor or whatever be placed in front of the turbo, and behind? Also, I was thinking about going with the ISS pro gauges, unless anyone has a better suggestion.
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I'm wondering which gauges I should use get. I was thinking engine coolant, engine oil temp, tranny temp and exhaust gas temp. The truck is an '05, so no need for a turbo gauge. Also, on the exhaust gas should the sensor or whatever be placed in front of the turbo, and behind? Also, I was thinking about going with the ISS pro gauges, unless anyone has a better suggestion.
Thanks.
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I went with Isspro EV2 100psi fuel pressure and 1600* EGT installed in the dash cover, then an Edge Insight CTS for the dash. Most things can be read digitally, so instead of spending ~$120 for each gauge, you can spend $180 on a single Scangauge and get them all. Fuel pressure and exhaust temp, are really the only ones you need stand alone gauges for, unless you want better readings on boost, voltage, and low pressure oil pressure. Somethings have to be read digitally to been seen while driving, like FICM voltage, IPR%, fan speed, and a bunch of other random PIDs.
I followed this for the two in the dash:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ts-o-pics.html
I followed this for the two in the dash:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ts-o-pics.html
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If you dont have one a scan gauge II will do all you mentioned but the EGT. And unless you are juicing it or towing heavy, EGT is not 100% necessary. I pull my 8000# boat and I rarely ever see my EGT temp go above 600 (post turbo) had I know a little more before getting the gauges I would have saved on the EGT and got some other toy for the truck. But thats just me. If you tow, especially in mountain or hill country, different story, Im in Florida so its flat as a board.
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I've read up on the scan gauge and edge insight, it's cool and all but I kind of like the way gauges look mounted on the pillar in the pods. I live in the Texas panhandle, so I won't be towing much in anything too hilly or mountainous. So should I just do tranny temp, eot, and ect gauges?
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Look the scangauge i guess doesn't look cool but who cares . You can't buy enough gauges to do what it does , and i don't think you have any idea what it can do for you to keep and eye on your motor . The trans gauge you want waste of time these tranys hardly get warm enough to open their thermostat , towing 14k i have barely seen 180 . And by the time you try to get some sort of sensors put in for EOT and ECT they will probably won't read close to the stock sensors that the scangauge will read . JMHO
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I've read up on the scan gauge and edge insight, it's cool and all but I kind of like the way gauges look mounted on the pillar in the pods. I live in the Texas panhandle, so I won't be towing much in anything too hilly or mountainous. So should I just do tranny temp, eot, and ect gauges?
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I went with Isspro EV2 100psi fuel pressure and 1600* EGT installed in the dash cover, then an Edge Insight CTS for the dash. Most things can be read digitally, so instead of spending ~$120 for each gauge, you can spend $180 on a single Scangauge and get them all. Fuel pressure and exhaust temp, are really the only ones you need stand alone gauges for, unless you want better readings on boost, voltage, and low pressure oil pressure. Somethings have to be read digitally to been seen while driving, like FICM voltage, IPR%, fan speed, and a bunch of other random PIDs.
I followed this for the two in the dash:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ts-o-pics.html
I followed this for the two in the dash:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ts-o-pics.html
Man, I really like the look of those CTS, are they still $300?
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I disagree. Having an EGT gauge can help narrow down issues before you start messing with parts. Sporadic high EGT readings can also let you know if you have an exhaust leak versus issues with the turbo or the EGR valve depending on how your truck handles.
I would say that it is an important gauge to have regardless of tuning and/or towing. But I'm also highly risk adverse.
Pre-turbo is really want you want as that helps let you know how hot the gases are getting to your turbo. You are right at the average though. Post turbo is about roughly 200°F cooler then pre turbo.
I would say that it is an important gauge to have regardless of tuning and/or towing. But I'm also highly risk adverse.
Pre-turbo is really want you want as that helps let you know how hot the gases are getting to your turbo. You are right at the average though. Post turbo is about roughly 200°F cooler then pre turbo.
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Man, I really like the look of those CTS, are they still $300? That gauge is great for monitoring the egt, eot, ect, tran temp, ficm voltage & more. All customized colors/screens/alarms by you! Then get a scan gauge for trouble shooting, some guys on the forum don't mind using the small plain screen for monitoring.
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I don't know. I just really like the look of the actual gauges. So if I do get the EGT gauge, I should mount before the turbo? I have read before about the sensor breaking off and going through the turbo. Anyone else heard anything of that nature?
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I don't know current pricing on the CTS, I paid $350 for one and $325 for a second. My Scangauge was $160 on Amazon. I'm glad I have both, they each have strong points, and the SG pulls triple duty on my other cars.
OP, look at the link I put in my first post, that's the most common spot to put the probe. Post turbo works, but like Tex said to be conservative you have to add 200-300 degrees in your head to the top temp to guesstimate what the temp before the turbo is. I'd go pre-turbo, better info and a low risk of the probe failing.
Isspro's EV2 lineup has almost every gauge you could want, even an ICP gauge. Knowing that you'll spend more and do more work than going digital, they're good gauges and will work. EGT, TFT, fuel pressure, boost, ECT, the EOT is still the order I'd go in if you go that route, so if you change your mind you put the non-digital gauges in first.
OP, look at the link I put in my first post, that's the most common spot to put the probe. Post turbo works, but like Tex said to be conservative you have to add 200-300 degrees in your head to the top temp to guesstimate what the temp before the turbo is. I'd go pre-turbo, better info and a low risk of the probe failing.
Isspro's EV2 lineup has almost every gauge you could want, even an ICP gauge. Knowing that you'll spend more and do more work than going digital, they're good gauges and will work. EGT, TFT, fuel pressure, boost, ECT, the EOT is still the order I'd go in if you go that route, so if you change your mind you put the non-digital gauges in first.
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I don't know current pricing on the CTS, I paid $350 for one and $325 for a second. My Scangauge was $160 on Amazon. I'm glad I have both, they each have strong points, and the SG pulls triple duty on my other cars.
OP, look at the link I put in my first post, that's the most common spot to put the probe. Post turbo works, but like Tex said to be conservative you have to add 200-300 degrees in your head to the top temp to guesstimate what the temp before the turbo is. I'd go pre-turbo, better info and a low risk of the probe failing.
Isspro's EV2 lineup has almost every gauge you could want, even an ICP gauge. Knowing that you'll spend more and do more work than going digital, they're good gauges and will work. EGT, TFT, fuel pressure, boost, ECT, the EOT is still the order I'd go in if you go that route, so if you change your mind you put the non-digital gauges in first.
OP, look at the link I put in my first post, that's the most common spot to put the probe. Post turbo works, but like Tex said to be conservative you have to add 200-300 degrees in your head to the top temp to guesstimate what the temp before the turbo is. I'd go pre-turbo, better info and a low risk of the probe failing.
Isspro's EV2 lineup has almost every gauge you could want, even an ICP gauge. Knowing that you'll spend more and do more work than going digital, they're good gauges and will work. EGT, TFT, fuel pressure, boost, ECT, the EOT is still the order I'd go in if you go that route, so if you change your mind you put the non-digital gauges in first.
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Sure it could happen, but I think more likely then not it doesn't providing it was properly installed.