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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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2006 EGR Delete?

I have been searching the EGR delete for the 2006's. I am looking for the latest info on doing a delete.
I am reading about "tunes" to get rid of codes, leave the EGR valve plugged in and you won't get codes, loosing boost, ?????
I agree that exhaust going back throught the intake can't be good with the increased heat.
It is very confusing when searching EGR delete. There are pro's and con's.
I just want to be safe and trouble free when towing.
I have the Scangauge2, coolant filter. I believe all else is stock. Dealer replaced 3 injectors and the oil cooler at 129,000 miles ( when I bought the truck).
OASIS report shows thje EGR valve has been replaced once and cleaned at least 2 times. I had the "wrench" and the dealer cleaned the EGR valve and the turbo.
I don't go through inspection so I would like to get rid of the EGR if it will solve the valve issue.
On anotehr note, I noticed a crack in the seam of the plastic snorkle that goes to the front of the motor. Saw it before our trip and put some duct tape on it, when towing a steep hill in Vermont I heard a sudden loud hissing and when I checked the duct tape was blown off. Hopefully the desaler will replace it with our extended warranty.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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You may NOT want to EGR Deleate if you still have a warrenty

EGR Deleatecould Void the Warrenty

Depends what broke and how the dealer is if you need to use Extended warrety at anytime

To EGR deleate you need to remove/plug/weld the egr cooler and leave the EGR Valve Plugged in you also may need a Tunner to turn off CEL and keep the truck from Going into Limp Mode


The Snorkle deal is called the Fan Shroud how bad is it cracked
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rstazick
I just want to be safe and trouble free when towing.

Hauling ~16k lbs, Stage I injectors, 64 mm turbo and I still have the original EGR/Oil Cooler that came with the truck when I took possession with 20 miles on the odometer. Have over 200k right now.



Originally Posted by rstazick
I don't go through inspection so I would like to get rid of the EGR if it will solve the valve issue.

I'm sure some of y'all are sick of my posting this as much as I am.

It doesn't matter if you have inspections or not, it is still illegal to remove any emission controls that came on your vehicle from the factory. That is Federal law which trumps State law.

Chances are higher of getting caught if you have emissions testing, but have no illusions, it is still illegal and if you travel in areas that are very particular about these type of violations, you can be fined there as well due to it being Federal.

I've seen shops closed down because of the fines associated with doing things like this.

Removing it will at the very least will void warranty on items that fall under emissions (even FICM modules fall under this, or atleast that's what my dealership did when mine crapped out; they replaced it because they wrote it up as having fallen under emissions warranty).

Also I have yet to clean my EGR valve, not once. I don't even know the procedure (sad I know) to clean it. Which makes me wonder about the "lifestyle" that this truck has to endure.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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rstazick,
I won't get into the legalities, Do what you want, live life as you see fit.
Here's how to do with cussing. My pleasure. Yeah right.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...tion-tips.html
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomphixer
rstazick,
I won't get into the legalities, Do what you want, live life as you see fit.
Here's how to do with cussing. My pleasure. Yeah right.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...tion-tips.html

Legalities aside, this is a mod that isn't needed. Certainly not to the level that everybody just says how awful this component is.

People have a perception and that perception won't die and that is what is driving people for this type of mod.

If these trucks were used like they were designed to be used, your chances of these issues would be greatly reduced. I won't say completely eliminated, because there is always a chance of getting a crap product and that can happen no matter what the product is. However, there are also some things that you have to do differently with these trucks even if you use them like you should because of the differences between these newer diesels and the ones that from generations past. That's probably what gets a lot of people.

Your biggest advantage on these newer diesels is knowledge (and I should stipulate valid knowledge as well).

I swear it's just like people's perception that tuners will increase mileage.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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You will get Better MPG with EGR Deleate


To Have EGR on a Diesel is Pointless

Just for the Fact that any emmisions Reduced from an EGR system dont Matter since your MPG is down you will burn more Natural Fossil Fuels

The MORE Fuel you Burn the MORE Emmision is Created Pumping and ReFining and In Fuel Delivery to the Fuel Pumps Plus Faster Elimination of Fossil Fuel Resources

Does an EGR system Really Help the PROBLEM in the Big Picture???????


Shure long as you have a Clean Oil Cooler EGR Cooler wont Fail

To me a EGR Defeats it own Purpose
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
will get Better MPG with EGR Deleate
First, I have a truck ton serve a purpose, mileage, while a plus, is not my primary concern. However, not everyone sees an improvement after a delete, it depends on how they drive their vehicle and what all they are doing. Just like not everyone gets better mileage just by the mere fact of having a tuner.

Also, if the EGR is working correctly you should still be producing less particulates even though you may be burning more fuel. So yes and no to more pollution. You are using more fuel(per your theory) with the EGR working, but it's still eliminating some of the particulates. Now the question is does the mileage gained from the removal outweigh the extra particulates created? That would determin if the EGR is worth it in the long run or not.




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Shure long as you have a Clean Oil Cooler EGR Cooler wont Fail
That to me sounds like the EGR isn't the source of the issue, but a symptom, which is contrary to the point of a delete as that is supposed to solve the source of a problem.

EGR can still have some issues, thats were knowing some driving PM can help here, but even with a deleted EGR you can still have the oil cooler crap out. Knew a few people that have.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
First, I have a truck ton serve a purpose, mileage, while a plus, is not my primary concern. However, not everyone sees an improvement after a delete, it depends on how they drive their vehicle and what all they are doing. Just like not everyone gets better mileage just by the mere fact of having a tuner..

Most people who EGR deleate do Gain MPG

By design I almost think everyone Gains MPG with a EGR Deleate I really Dont know how they couldnt Gain MPG with a Deleate Because no GAIN from Recycling SPENT EXHAUST GASSES

It Takes More Fuel to OVERCOME what Spent Exhaust Gas Takes AWAY









Originally Posted by tex25025
That to me sounds like the EGR isn't the source of the issue, but a symptom, which is contrary to the point of a delete as that is supposed to solve the source of a problem..
Right with you on this^^^^


Originally Posted by tex25025
EGR can still have some issues, thats were knowing some driving PM can help here, but even with a deleted EGR you can still have the oil cooler crap out. Knew a few people that have.
Yep Right with Ya here too

A failed Oil cooler can cause Coolant flow Issue in addition to Dumping Oil into Coolant


Im Deleated and still watch ECT vs EOT Deltas along with Proper PM for the Coolant


So to OP dont do a EGR deleate thinking its a CUREALL for the 6.0L cuz its NOT
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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In the years that I have been wrenching on these engines, having to change out thousands of coolers, I have NEVER ever had to change out a second EGR cooler where I have replaced BOTH coolers, except for ONE. And the one example would be on an E-Series CITY driven bread truck that the second EGR cooler and intake was plugged SOLID with carbon from several short stop uses. After replacing the second set, I lectured and lectured the owner of the company on the proper use of this vehicle so that he can pass this instruction onto its drivers. That's my 2 cents on this subject matter.

And tex25025, without knowing you I get the sense that if we were ever to talk over the phone, I would compliment you on your seemingly excellent English speaking and typing skills.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
Most people who EGR deleate do Gain MPG

By design I almost think everyone Gains MPG with a EGR Deleate I really Dont know how they couldnt Gain MPG with a Deleate Because no GAIN from Recycling SPENT EXHAUST GASSES

It Takes More Fuel to OVERCOME what Spent Exhaust Gas Takes AWAY
I agree with your here in theory. It still isn't a sure thing.

Again it's like tuners and MPG gains.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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And tex25025, without knowing you I get the sense that if we were ever to talk over the phone, I would compliment you on your seemingly excellent English speaking and typing skills.
Thank you for the compliment, but it should go to my grandma, who was a high school English teacher for years, and her excellent use of ruler to hand if grammar rules were broken.

But on occasion I do talk hick as well. I have my moments.
 
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Thank you for the compliment, but it should go to my grandma, who was a high school English teacher for years, and her excellent use of ruler to hand if grammar rules were broken.
A HA!!! That explains it very well. It's funny how reading certain member's posts can really give us a grasp of their personalities and education level. And your grandmother did an EXCELLENT job in her role of bringing you up.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
A HA!!! That explains it very well. It's funny how reading certain member's posts can really give us a grasp of their personalities and education level. And your grandmother did an EXCELLENT job in her role of bringing you up.
Well she is still at it, even at 96 she can still use a ruler with the best of them.

Oh yea, you can pick up a lot with how a person posts.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
A HA!!! That explains it very well. It's funny how reading certain member's posts can really give us a grasp of their personalities and education level. And your grandmother did an EXCELLENT job in her role of bringing you up.
Mike I disagree here. I cant spell for crap. Does that mean I have little to no education? Maybe I lack personality?

as for gaining MPG with an egr delete not so much.
as for leaving the valve in so you dont get a dtc, not so much you will get a p0401 without a tuner.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit

Mike I disagree here. I cant spell for crap. Does that mean I have little to no education? Maybe I lack personality?
Well he did say some member's posts.

Originally Posted by cheezit
as for gaining MPG with an egr delete not so much.
Uh oh, that's not stellar feedback for MPG gains after an EGR delete.
 
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