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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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ok, ipr is good. so i started the air pressure test. could hear air leaking in the drivers side valve cover. pulled the valve cover and whalla!!! all the torx bolts were loose on the cast fuel piping (what is the right name for this?)...

can i just tighten them or will there be seals that need replacing?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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The part is called the high pressure oil rail. The proper torque spec for all nine of those TX-30 bolts are 10 ft-lbs. If they were that loose, odds are they were never tightened properly to begin with. I would pull the rail off to have a very close look at the tops of all four injectors very carefully, and repair as needed.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
The part is called the high pressure oil rail. The proper torque spec for all nine of those TX-30 bolts are 10 ft-lbs. If they were that loose, odds are they were never tightened properly to begin with. I would pull the rail off to have a very close look at the tops of all four injectors very carefully, and repair as needed.
what am i looking for? cut orings? the retaining ring on all of them is in one piece not broken.

how do i know its not the ball socket seals on the high pressure oil rail thats what my gut is telling me?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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All of the bolts were loose??!? That can't be good.

That would leave me wondering what else wasn't done right
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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true. but i just need to get this thing to start. if something else goes wrong, the guy that owns it can worry about it then.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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And that guy is paying you to fix his truck?

And you're going to send it on its way knowing there could possibly be something else wrong with it?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006powerstroke90
And that guy is paying you to fix his truck?

And you're going to send it on its way knowing there could possibly be something else wrong with it?
Maybe he is !!!!!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006powerstroke90
And that guy is paying you to fix his truck?

And you're going to send it on its way knowing there could possibly be something else wrong with it?
now, if i replace this, it starts, runs fine, do you think he's going to say, yeah! pull apart the other side and lets spend some more money!!! maybe a perfect scenario. but 98% of the general public is going to say, it runs! give me my truck back its fine! lol.

my dodge, one bad injector, replaced all 6. customer dodge, replace one at a time only as needed. some people just cant afford/dont want to spend money on their vehicles.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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c'mon anyone? i need the wisdom of the ford elite die hards here. ford dealer is stumped. i assume i have to buy the whole high pressure oil line? and might as well to the dummy plugs and all the other **** ford puts junk o rings on underneath the v.c.

all the o rings and retainer clips appear to be ok.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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I would just tighten all the oil rail fasteners and see if it starts and run it up to operating temperature to see if it re-starts with the valve cover off. If all is good, ship it.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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I would just tighten all the oil rail fasteners and see if it starts and run it up to operating temperature to see if it re-starts with the valve cover off. If all is good, ship it.
i did that. it didnt start. after cranking, i can hear the air leak. cant find it visually, even with a light and a mirror. tried pouring oil over the oil tube and injectors to find a spray, but nothing. so im thinking it is leaking at the nipple seals on the oiil pipe.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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now, if i replace this, it starts, runs fine, do you think he's going to say, yeah! pull apart the other side and lets spend some more money!!! maybe a perfect scenario. but 98% of the general public is going to say, it runs! give me my truck back its fine! lol.

my dodge, one bad injector, replaced all 6. customer dodge, replace one at a time only as needed. some people just cant afford/dont want to spend money on their vehicles.
I would hope you would fill the owner in and let them make that call????
Maybe he is part of the 2%?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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I would hope you would fill the owner in and let them make that call????
Maybe he is part of the 2%?
Heck yeah I'm telling him! I'll take this thing to bare block and start over if that's what he wants to do. Lol.
 
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So where are you at now?
 
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