Brand new guy, need help on getting alternator info, search came up with the above names.

I had a Ford rebuilt alternator put on last year and it has a distintive drone that I am growing weary of so I am looking into alternatives.

The DC site says little about where, other than oem, the parts they use come from which I fear means that the oem parts they use are coming from China, the Quick Start site mentions that the windings are done in the States and they go into detail about the bearings used.

I seem to be getting a warmer and fuzzyier feeling about QS BUT would gladly spend the higher bucks if DC is the 'better' product.

Anyone?

Thanks in advance

 

If it DC Power alternators you are talking about they are Good Ones

Actualy Top of the Line

I have one and been great I was eating OEM Alternators Fast with stereo

https://www.dcpowerinc.com/

I went with the 190amp DC Unit and wire upgrade

 

well.... i just dropped the money on a 270 amp DC... got it from ed@ficmrepair.com
.... no regrets... i haven't seen any bad reviews
from anyone about DC power products.

their stuff looks pretty good, from my take on it... the 270 amp idles
at about 200 amp, and puts out 300+ peak. the 270 is a conservative
number.

their windings are square drawn copper, and it looks pretty bulletproof.
so, for what it's worth, i dumped almost $600 on their premium unit.
no anxiety about it. lotta folks here run them, and on the high end
stereo forums, there is nothing but raves about them.

you have to upgrade your battery cable to 1/0 copper, minimum.
don't run it on the factory charging wire, if you buy the big one.
it has enough current output to smoke the oem wire, literally.

welcome to the forum.

 

Appreciate the replies, its interesting to me that one maker will specifically mention Canada, Georgia and Illinois as parts origin and one not so much so, however I am reasonably certain that both are buying from the same sources.

No mention as to where the stator/castings are from which of course means the parts are Chinese.

I'll do more research and post what I discover.

Its too bad, bizarre really, that Ford does not offer 'new' alternators anymore, even more bizarre that they finally fixed the 6.0 late in the run and then discontinued it. Ours-'07-has been one of the best engines we have ever owned at 70k the alternator is the only repair, it runs like a clock, gets great fuel mileage, does not overheat or use any oil between changes, has never shown glycol in the many uoa's I have had done, plus the reports show a very, very happy engine PLUS no exhaust burner or dpf-diesel life doesn't get any better than this.

Sure its a bit on the loud side and the heui system, while absolutely trouble free, still-for some reason- makes me wish Ford had chosen something less complicated but............

 

Many very reliable early model years also.

Not bizarre at all that it was discontinued, emissions regulations are the main culprit.

 

bismic, I partially agree; there are many satisfied psd owners of early years but I believe its fair to say buying early was a crapshoot- there are many many more who had serious issues-self inflicted for the vast majority ?, thats the hot topic for me. We have never spoken to an '06/'07 owner who was not thrilled with the 6.0 yes it is a small sample but I think its fair to say that Ford / International finally got it correct then had to go and try to compete with the 'bigger is better' flawed mindset.

Are you saying that the 6.0 was incompatible with dpf or whatever emissions mandates were made necessary by the EPA?

One very upset '04 owner said to me that the only reason we were not members of the P_ ssy : sucky diesel owners club : PSD : is that in the E series the engine is derated by about 1/3 due to cooling restraints imposed by the chasis .

While we have verifed the hp claim we are still searching for that unhappy '06,'07 owner who has the full monty, or more accurately the owner who has even close to the full monty as it appears 95% still have a need for more hp/torque and the fix is always the chip....

Every single, again I acknowledge its a tiny sample, owner of the two last years run have said the same thing, the truck isn't going anywhere. The owners know that they have an irreplaceable gem in a pre emissions edition.

Tnks for the post.

 

Well it seems that DC has twice as much confidence in their products as Quick Start does-that is if warranty is any indication, interesting...

"you gotta go DC if you want twice the warranty"

wonder if that catchy phrase is worth a discount ???

 

well, you are far more informed than i was when i ended up here.
kudos to you for that...

you are also speaking from a 70k milage viewpoint. i had a less
factually based but equally sunny viewpoint up to 91k. the only
issue i had was replacing an alternator in the first 90k.

and about half of that, i ran a banks IQ on level 6, in an E-350 work
truck at over 10k rolling weight. i've never experienced a cooling
problem at any power or load level i've ever used.

at 91k, oil cooler, EGR cooler, head gaskets all failed, and out came
the engine. a smidge over $10k later, it runs fine again.

but i was pretty cranky by the time i got here. if i didn't have the
vehicle set up the way i wanted it, and paid for, i might have walked
away from it, i was that pissed. and a lot of folks end up here in that
mindset.

sorta like the 12 step community. the new folks show up broken and
mad, then get their stuff sorted out, and stay to help the newer folks
who show up broken and mad.

very few of us end up in this forum 'cause things were just working
well, and we wanted to tell everyone how great it is.
so, we are all here, 'cause we do better individually when we pool
our information of what works and what doesn't with the 6.0.

there are a few "senior folks" here who have given an almost
unimaginable amount of effort helping people here. who they are
will become self evident if you stick around here.

and the new folks, who come in with %$#@@$*&! 6.0L !##$$$%%$#&&
in their first post benefit hugely from it.

the five rules of thumb that this engine needs to survive are:

correct voltage
clean coolant
clean oil
clean fuel
proper filters

and this engine is less tolerant of mistakes in those areas than
almost any other engine i've ever seen.

"oh, your batteries were weak, and it killed your ficm and injectors,
and cost $5,600 to fix? bummer, dude...."

so, this is what most of us are dealing with, and sometimes it leaves
us with a bit of a snarky attitude.

 

You think early years was a Crap shoot HUH

Maybe thats cuz Ford should have had better Training

And matbe you better do some more research cuz your your going to spend more money at an 06-07 to Bullet Proof it

 

Fulthrotl, you are correct indeed-time will tell

blade35, not certain that I undertand your position-are you saying that many many owners of the 6.0 did not take it in the shorts with regard to serious issues? Remember I like the 6.0 an awful lot, its just that I can't understand why it was ended-emissions incompatibility or dumb marketing or perhaps both-either way what was to me one of the best engines Ford ever made is no more and really its too bad.

I'll try to figure out how to post the many uoa's I have, I find the results very interesting-but I will 'warn' everyone in advance as I only now use Amsoil it may be contentious-and I am not a dealer, just a believer.

Anyhow by tomorrow I hope to have some more info on DC products, will post.

thanks again to all who are replying.

 

FYI - Ford did NOT make the 6.0. It is an International engine.

 

Yes just as Bismic stated 6.0L was ended over emmissions requirments


It just bugs me when folks get on here and say the Early 6.0L was JUNK

thats not the Case at all IMO the Early 2003 6.0L rolled of the assembly line more Bullet Proof than a 2007 Did

Now lets say you Bullet Proof each a 03 & 07

the 03 will cost less to bullet proof because it requires less parts to get to that point

But the 07 will be the Better one in the end after bullet proof cause you will have stuff like Bigger water pump BUT In turn 03 EGR Coolers were the best ones the round ones they are built like the Upgraded BPD ones right from the get go very very few round egr cooler failures but a TON of 05+ egr cooler failures the square ones suck and Im going to stop there but you get my point


Its Not that the Early 6.0L were junk at all its the fact they was New model and the training tpo Diagnos and fix problems wasnt a set Procedure yet. Im thinking that the techs had to figure some of these BAD problems and repeat problems out on there own what was really going on with these trucks to ultimatly have a proper fix.

Like it took awhile before it was finaly relized that a EGR Cooler Failure was from plugged oil cooler failure and when the EGR Cooler lets go BOTH OIL and EGR COOLERS need REPLACED so they didnt do it like that at first and there was MANY MANY repeat Failures Even bad egr cooler failures will Blow HeadGaskets so it got spendy

Just becareful dont come out and say early trucks sucked thats not the case really Its the Maufacture Repair procedure that was a BUST IMO early on

One assembly plant did have a issue with TTY Head Bolts but it wasnt to many I dont think but Im unshure on this

 

I would take any 6.0L any year they all good ones compared to the newer stuff the 6.4L or the 6.7L still dont have a warm fuzzey feeling yet with those. Im shure them new ones are sweet trucks though

I dont like the new ones cuz certain things is spendy to fix but more because some of these parts lets say a 6.7L Injectors you or me cant really change a bad injector because they starting to make these auto in a way that most new parts will need special programming to Marrey it to the certain truck

Personaly I think the manufactures are all going to start doing this as they want to corner the repair market or sell you a 10K computer to sync the new parts to it

 

I wouldn't trade my 04 6.0 for any of the newer trucks. Sure I spent some big coins replacing the coolers, EGR delete, gaskets and studs. Its an excellent running machine now. I had an 03 built 6.0 for 90 days, of which the dealer drove and repaired it more than I did. That truck was a POS from day one, it had to have been built friday on a holiday weekend. I drove a 2012 last spring the dealer wanted my truck that I modified the way I want it plus 40,000 to trade and I would have to start over again making it the truck that fits my needs. I sure would like to get a toke on his crack pipe.

By the way I also have a DC Power 270 alternator, and upgraded cables. An excellent choice I have had a problem since. Mine runs a large 100% duty cycle 12V air compressor, never misses a beat even at idle.

 

true... ford just helped with the tuning, and let their bean counters
help in the design phase....

in all honesty, i'd say that the 6.0 debacle that ford went off on a
new engine platform to avoid was more a marketing deal, than
an engineering deal.

the ultra high pressure sequential fuel injection for diesels didn't
exist in 2003, and when it became a viable engine control, everyone
started moving in that direction, driven by fuel economy as much as
emissions.

so.... ford's corporate handling of the 6.0 issues is what they are
trying to escape from, not any late in the game engineering issues
they can't solve.

it's all marketing, IMHO. and ford and international aren't sending
each other valentines after their joint venture.

for long term strategies, it's a VERY small step with the next version
of OBDIII, or III.2, or whatever they call it, to make all of the data
stream available with wifi to anyone who can either legislate to get it,
or pay to subscribe to it, including GPS data.

so, you exceed a certain speed, you get a ping with your VIN, speed,
time and location showing up at the DMV, who mails you a citation.
or, your code on the CPU has been "enhanced"..... and you get a notice
in the mail to bring your vehicle into a referree station....

or, you don't make your payment to ford financing on your new toy,
so it just doesn't start until you do.

or your "random, annonymitized," driving patterns are sold to companies
for marketing purposes.

i can't even open up a web page on this computer without getting
a BPD EGR banner ad on a page, along with every professional google
search i've made in the last month.

i sound like a nut with a tinfoil hat ranting? i'm not saying it will happen,
i'm saying it would be EFFORTLESS for it to happen. especially in california.


"in breaking news tonight, the california legislature, supporting CARB ruling
#28-5580, has required all 1995 and later vehicles to have an OBDIII.2
port extension permanently attached to their vehicle with the next license registration.
this will allow CARB air compliance networks to supervise engine emissions compliance."

among other things.... the possibilities are endless... and not reassuring.

so i have a vehicle that california won't outlaw in 6 years, like the F-450
6.0L, making it worthless, and it doesn't need DPF fluid, and it doesn't have
a fuel injection system that will self destruct on a damp day....

and when it won't run any more, i'm retiring... by then the electrical
contractors will all be using segway's and wearing their tool pouches,
and calling it a service truck.

if 400,000 miles from now, i still need a work truck, i did something
very very wrong with my buisness plan.