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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Car seat question

I am starting to look at vehicles to replace my 1997 Expedition as a family hauler.

I am wondering if the Excursion has the anchors for a car seat. The lower ones that are by the seat belt latches.

I am looking to make it easier to swap car seats between vehicles.

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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Excursions do not have the anchor points for a latch system by the seat belts. For more info look at this thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...car-seats.html
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Thanks for the info. That definitely drops the Excursion down on the list for replacement vehicles.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Excursions do not have the anchor points for a latch system by the seat belts. For more info look at this thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...car-seats.html
As mentioned in that thread, they do not have the lower anchors (the LA part of LATCH) mounted in the fold of the seat, but they DO have the tether anchors (the T part of LATCH - you provide the CH ) behind all three seats in the middle row (assuming you have the bench and not buckets). In fact, I think there are 4 tether anchor points spread over 3 seats. However, the middle seat has a standard lap belt which is supposed to be as effective as the lower anchors (just less convenient) and the outer seats have locking belts that make them suitable for child seats.

They also do not have head rests in the 3rd row, and the 3rd row seat is a few inches short on one side to accommodate the spare tire. Still, it works well enough for us, since we needed all 8 seats for our family. Overall, I'm quite pleased with everything about ours, except the price of gasoline.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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I know seat belts work, but kind of a pain when I have to swap the car seats into another truck so the kids can spend the weekend with the grandparents.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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I thought the same thing. But to tell you the truth, it is much easier to install with seatbelts than latch. I marked the shoulder belt where to put the lock plate and now I can install the forward facing car seat in about 30 seconds (including rear tether). The rear facing infant seat is even easier in the middle. Simply buckle, extract the belt completely to engage the ratchet retrieval, and weigh the seat to lock it in place.

I can do both car seats in a matter of only a few minutes (I'm talking < 2 minutes). I've done it at the airport terminal with the security ***** timing me.

You'd be surprised how easy and convenient it is, especially with the size of the middle seat.

If LATCH is really a make-or-break issue, I can relate. In fact, the lack of anchors nearly prevented us from buying the Excursion. Now it's a non-issue and we can't believe we nearly went with a minivan.

The Excursion is a great family vehicle.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Yeah, it isn't that bad for me to get the car seats into our Expedition, which probably has about the same width seat. But the LATCH anchors make it much easier for my wife to do it, so she can swap the seats if I am not there.

At least with the Expedition, the angle of the seat belt latch makes in a bit of a pain with the extra large car seats we have. The angle just ends up being weird that makes it tough to get the seats in.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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True. My wife never does it. That was part of the Excursion deal. No LATCH = I had to buy 2 more car seats and leave them installed. It was worth it. She could do it if she tried, although she's not great at installing using LATCH either. You really need some mass to sufficiently tighten the straps. Mass is my department.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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It's not too bad getting a car seat in and out of the X. It takes me about a minute or so to get the seat belt through and get the tether tightened up. I like that the X has a tether mount, it's something that my old Suburban didn't have and my kid's seat is a lot more secure from moving around in the X.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Latch is great...but also a PITA

4 kids = lots of carseat fun. I luckily only have to deal with 6 carseats at the moment since oldest is old/big enough to not need one anymore

Even my 08 Expy didn't have latch in all seats. Just the middle row. I just bought another set of carseats and leave them installed in both vehicles

When it comes time to move seats around, I've found that I prefer strapping using the seatbelts. I can get the carseat much much tighter that way. The latch setup never gets as tight. And when you have 3 seats crammed together, there isn't often alot of room between seats to be fishing your hand in there to pull the latch belt

Only reason I like latch is for the top tether. That feature is nice for forward facing seats to prevent tilting in hard stops/accidents
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Must be a difference with the car seats, I have had better luck getting them tight with the LATCH straps. At least on the seats I have, there is plenty of extra on the belts to get them all strapped in, then tighten them down.

If the second vehicle we need them to be in was ours, I would by another set, but the second vehicle is the grandparents so a second set is out.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ralf12
Must be a difference with the car seats, I have had better luck getting them tight with the LATCH straps. At least on the seats I have, there is plenty of extra on the belts to get them all strapped in, then tighten them down.

If the second vehicle we need them to be in was ours, I would by another set, but the second vehicle is the grandparents so a second set is out.
For me it depends on the type of clasp the LATCH belt uses. I had one seat with connectors that looked like this that worked pretty well.


I have another with connectors like these that were actually harder to undo than a regular seat belt if I got them as tight as I liked. Once I got it that tight, it was almost impossible to get the slack necessary to get them to release.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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I lucked out and scored a free second seat from a buddy who found out he was a daddy, (when the kid was 2 1/2) and he didn't use it very long. It was never in an accident and doesn't expire until 2015. It is very nice having two seats. However when we take a long trip I still swap the seat from my wifes' car into the Ex because it is more comfortable and my boy will pass out in it. I use the latch system when it is in her car and the center lap belt when they are in mine. I get the tension almost exactly the same no matter which way they are fastened. I also love my Ex so much that it could take 4 times longer to install them and it would be worth it. But I am glad it takes the same amount of time to install them in either vehicle. It is all about getting used to installing them.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Unless you plan to continue breeding, your current offspring will grow out of their super carseats to booster seats in a relatively short period, which work fine. Until then, bungee cords should be plenty.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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I was more thinking Gorilla Tape than bungee cords.
 
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