Buying a 30ft travel trailer. Need some mod advice
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Buying a 30ft travel trailer. Need some mod advice
So, I will be picking up a 30ft bunkhouse TT soon.
Here is how my X is currently setup.
7.3L, Ford "HD" replacement 4R100. Triple disc billet TC, 4" Diamond Eye exhaust, 6637 filter, Gauges, 4" Procomp lift. 35" Toyo M/Ts(E Rated). Hellwig Rear sway bar.
I run a DP tuner with 80hp tow tunes and 65hp tunes(among others). Factory 7.3L A/T cooler.
I live in Colorado and to date I have had no issues with power or EGTs pulling the major passes on I-70 with my 4runner on my Car trailer. I figure its around 6000lbs though. Tranny temps will creep up to around 215* at the top in 75-80* weather.
However, this trailer is going to be around 6700lbs dry. I figure around 7500-8000lbs loaded.
1. Is the 6.0L tranny cooler definitely the way to go, or would piggy-backing another BIG cooler do the job?
2. Obviously, I am buying a weight distribution hitch and sway control setup. Although I would like some advice on which ones are best. ????
I already have a Hellwig rear sway bar installed. Plus, I may even upgrade the current hitch as well since the hitch pin hole has seen better days. Its pretty "oval-ed" out.
3. Do you think an air bag setup will be necessary?
I already have a Prodigy brake controller, so that should be handled.
4. Anything else you would recommend?
Here is how my X is currently setup.
7.3L, Ford "HD" replacement 4R100. Triple disc billet TC, 4" Diamond Eye exhaust, 6637 filter, Gauges, 4" Procomp lift. 35" Toyo M/Ts(E Rated). Hellwig Rear sway bar.
I run a DP tuner with 80hp tow tunes and 65hp tunes(among others). Factory 7.3L A/T cooler.
I live in Colorado and to date I have had no issues with power or EGTs pulling the major passes on I-70 with my 4runner on my Car trailer. I figure its around 6000lbs though. Tranny temps will creep up to around 215* at the top in 75-80* weather.
However, this trailer is going to be around 6700lbs dry. I figure around 7500-8000lbs loaded.
1. Is the 6.0L tranny cooler definitely the way to go, or would piggy-backing another BIG cooler do the job?
2. Obviously, I am buying a weight distribution hitch and sway control setup. Although I would like some advice on which ones are best. ????
I already have a Hellwig rear sway bar installed. Plus, I may even upgrade the current hitch as well since the hitch pin hole has seen better days. Its pretty "oval-ed" out.
3. Do you think an air bag setup will be necessary?
I already have a Prodigy brake controller, so that should be handled.
4. Anything else you would recommend?
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6.0 tranny cooler is the way to go for sure, everything esle you have done is awesome!! You can add air bags or RAS to help with sag, just make sure you have the proper tongue weight when you load.
For the hitch, a weight distributing anti sway set up is recommended, I use the Reese Dual Cam set up and it works well.
For the hitch, a weight distributing anti sway set up is recommended, I use the Reese Dual Cam set up and it works well.
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1. Is the 6.0L tranny cooler definitely the way to go, or would piggy-backing another BIG cooler do the job?
2. Obviously, I am buying a weight distribution hitch and sway control setup. Although I would like some advice on which ones are best. ????
I already have a Hellwig rear sway bar installed. Plus, I may even upgrade the current hitch as well since the hitch pin hole has seen better days. Its pretty "oval-ed" out.
3. Do you think an air bag setup will be necessary?
I already have a Prodigy brake controller, so that should be handled.
4. Anything else you would recommend?
2. Obviously, I am buying a weight distribution hitch and sway control setup. Although I would like some advice on which ones are best. ????
I already have a Hellwig rear sway bar installed. Plus, I may even upgrade the current hitch as well since the hitch pin hole has seen better days. Its pretty "oval-ed" out.
3. Do you think an air bag setup will be necessary?
I already have a Prodigy brake controller, so that should be handled.
4. Anything else you would recommend?
2. If you can justify a high end one (propride) then go that route, otherwise they are all about the same. With the standard WD hitch it is better to get a 10k plus as it will give you thicker bars and of course stronger components.
3. Air bags might be necessary if you are hauling lots of gear and passengers in the back of the X. You might consider adding a RAS to the rear. Lots of threads on those.
4. Check your fluids. Air up the front and rear tires to the maximum allowed on the side wall. Plan for something to go wrong and then you might have the tools, parts and phone numbers you need to keep going (oh that's right... you are Jeep guy, so you know what I am talking about, lol). Have a great time.
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I believe the 6.0 cooler(or big aftermarket) is the way to go. Several buddies have put them on theirs and the tranny stays much cooler while pulling. I've had one for a while but not installed it due to having to take grille guard off. I will do it when I put on springs in next few weeks. As far as airbags, they make a lot of difference. It will stop the 'jounce' and also add stability if you hook them up independently. Good luck and happy camping!
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So, I will be picking up a 30ft bunkhouse TT soon.
I live in Colorado and to date I have had no issues with power or EGTs pulling the major passes on I-70 with my 4runner on my Car trailer. I figure its around 6000lbs though. Tranny temps will creep up to around 215* at the top in 75-80* weather.
However, this trailer is going to be around 6700lbs dry. I figure around 7500-8000lbs loaded.
I live in Colorado and to date I have had no issues with power or EGTs pulling the major passes on I-70 with my 4runner on my Car trailer. I figure its around 6000lbs though. Tranny temps will creep up to around 215* at the top in 75-80* weather.
However, this trailer is going to be around 6700lbs dry. I figure around 7500-8000lbs loaded.
Originally Posted by Jeepincj[B
1.[/B] Is the 6.0L tranny cooler definitely the way to go, or would piggy-backing another BIG cooler do the job?
Originally Posted by Jeepincj[B
2.[/B] Obviously, I am buying a weight distribution hitch and sway control setup. Although I would like some advice on which ones are best. ????
Friction based and non-friction based.
For friction based there are also 2 choices out there.
1) Reese Dual Cam Strait-Line Weight Distribution w Sway Control - Trunnion Bar - 12,000 lbs GTW, 1,200 lbs TW Reese Weight Distribution RP66074 (I only posted this so you see the hitch...this particular link does NOT include the adjustable shank and would need to be purchased separately)
2) Equal-I-zer BRAND hitch Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution System w/ 4-Point Sway Control - 12,000 lbs GTW, 1,200 lbs TW Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution EQ90-00-1200 (this one includes the shank and everything)
For non-friction based there are also 2 choices out there
1) Hensley Arrow (what I have)
2) ProPride (basically a Hensley with some changes...I know Sean (the owner of ProPride) probably just shuddered when he read what I wrote).
The BEST would be either of the latter two...there are always used Hensleys to be found...not sure how many used ProPrides have hit the market yet since that company is fairly new...but the virtual pivot point projection style hitches are head and shoulders above all friction based hitches...and they come at a high price though...
[quote=JeepincjI already have a Hellwig rear sway bar installed. Plus, I may even upgrade the current hitch as well since the hitch pin hole has seen better days. Its pretty "oval-ed" out. [/quote]
I protected my hitch pin hole like this...a simple $0.10 item!
What causes the hole to round out is the "crook" in the neck of the hitch pin...as it rides in and out of the hole...it rounds or ovals it out...by putting the hose clamp on the pin...it stops the "crook" from entering the hole and keeps only straight areas of the pin in the hole...try it out!
Originally Posted by Jeepincj[B
3.[/B] Do you think an air bag setup will be necessary?
[quote=JeepincjI already have a Prodigy brake controller, so that should be handled. [/quote]
Prodigy is a great controller...even after all these years it has been on the market...it's what I use too and have been extremely happy with it!
Originally Posted by Jeepincj[B
4.[/B] Anything else you would recommend?
Oh yeah...check your receiver rating...early Ex's came with receivers rated at 1000# max tongue weight with WD hitch...so please check that.
Other than that...that's all I'm coming up with the moment!
Good luck and let me know if something isn't clear.
Joe.
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As far as WD hitches are concerned, I am not very happy with my new Reese Dual cam, and after searching the net, I am not the only one having the same problem.
If you decide to get the Reese, make sure it is installed by a mechanic that will install it well and test it before you take it home.
I cannot see that the Equalizer would have any of the issues that I am having with my current one and should work fine.
I am SERIOUSLY considering going with the new Anderson WD Hitch
Andersen Manufacturing Inc.
Here is a post on another forum with my exprience with with the new Reese Dual cam:
RV.net post about the Reese
If you decide to get the Reese, make sure it is installed by a mechanic that will install it well and test it before you take it home.
I cannot see that the Equalizer would have any of the issues that I am having with my current one and should work fine.
I am SERIOUSLY considering going with the new Anderson WD Hitch
Andersen Manufacturing Inc.
Here is a post on another forum with my exprience with with the new Reese Dual cam:
RV.net post about the Reese
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Okay, so I bought my new camper today. Its a 2001 Fleetwood Terry 30S with rear triple bunks. It has the "Northwest" package so it has heated holding tanks and extra insulation which will allow us to camp early/later into the year.
Dry weight is only 5500lbs. With water pushes it to 5900lbs. So, I figure loaded with everything will still be below 7000lbs. I towed it home from Red Feather, CO up in the mountains.
It was windy today. And, it definitely has some sway to it in the gusts. That was expected, so I will be ordering a weight distribution hitch w/ anti-sway tonight.
I will also be getting a 6.0L tranny cooler. It was around 97* today and tranny temps were at 215* without pulling any passes at all. This was pretty much all downhill driving and flats only.
Dry weight is only 5500lbs. With water pushes it to 5900lbs. So, I figure loaded with everything will still be below 7000lbs. I towed it home from Red Feather, CO up in the mountains.
It was windy today. And, it definitely has some sway to it in the gusts. That was expected, so I will be ordering a weight distribution hitch w/ anti-sway tonight.
I will also be getting a 6.0L tranny cooler. It was around 97* today and tranny temps were at 215* without pulling any passes at all. This was pretty much all downhill driving and flats only.
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Scotty
2001 Excursion 4x4. 7.3L, 4" Lift, 35" Toyo M/Ts, Racelines, DP Tuner, Glowshift gauges, Roadrunner Torque converter, Diamond Eye exhaust
1997 F350 7.3L CC, LB, A/T. 4" Lift, 35" Hankooks A/Ts, Eagle 589s, DP Tuner, Glowshift gauges, Diamond Eye Exhaust, 7.3L intercooler(waiting to be installed), 310K and counting.
2001 Excursion 4x4. 7.3L, 4" Lift, 35" Toyo M/Ts, Racelines, DP Tuner, Glowshift gauges, Roadrunner Torque converter, Diamond Eye exhaust
1997 F350 7.3L CC, LB, A/T. 4" Lift, 35" Hankooks A/Ts, Eagle 589s, DP Tuner, Glowshift gauges, Diamond Eye Exhaust, 7.3L intercooler(waiting to be installed), 310K and counting.
Stewart
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I agree on the locking pins. I had ovaled out the reciever on my old expedition in only 4 years of used with a standard pin. I ended up replacing the reciever on that vehicle, and I have used locking straight pins ever since without a hint of ovaling in the expedition (while I had it) or my Excursion
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Some of the ones out there may not be rated for loads over 5,000#'s...so just do your homework!...remember there is a difference between locking up a bike rack and pulling 9,000#'s with your receiver...
I am NOT saying this is a bad idea...just do your homework and understand the ratings is all...
Joe.
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