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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Step 1 “Part’s List” (EGR & Oil Cooler R&R, Turbo Cleaning, STC, 4" exhaust and more)

2005 F350 6.0l 65K miles bone stock no tuner (original Owner).. I Tow a 36’ Travel Trailer. Process of elimination leads me to the Turbo. Have to remove, clean and reinstall and this should resolve my over-boost no power issue. While I have the turbo off I intend to do a bit of “Preventative maintenance”. Below is my list of parts. I’d appreciate you all looking them over to see if anything is wrong/missing. Also any comments or suggestions on additional changes while I’m into it. I suppose I have to stop at some point, replacing/upgrading, but if I am missing something that’s easy while I have it tore apart I would appreciate the advice. At this point money is no object (well.. almost) I just want to do it once. Any “O” rings gaskets or special tools I may be missing? I will add that my EOT & ECT is 5 to 10deg different with no issues. Also I did a coolant flush (VC-9) about a year ago at 59-60K miles an added a coolant filter. Want to add gauges but don’t like the idea of not having my grab handle mainly because my wife uses it (need to finger this one out). “X” indicates items sitting on the shelf in the garage ready to install.


Part No: Description
X ??????? DC Power 240amp Alternator w/cable kit
X ??????? 4” tubo back exhaust sys w/ cat delete option
X 1876071C91 Turbo Drain (Updated)
X 1854267C94-----3C3Z 9T517 AG Blue Spring (F-Pressure Reg.)
X 6C3Z 6C640 AA CAC Metal (cold side)
- RiffRaff CAC boots-- Cold and Hot side
X Dieselsite CAC boots-- Cold and Hot side
X 3C3Z 9T514 AD---1840053C96 Turbo Hardware "Mounting" Kit
X 4C4Z 9V424 AA---1870713C91 Turbo Reconditioning Kit with Hardware
X 3C3Z 9T516 A---- 1845287C96 Turbo Feed New (solid) oil feed tube (Updated)
X 4C3Z-9B246-E----1879930c91 STC Fitting (upgraded/replacement)
X BPD EGR & Oil Cooler (OEM) Kit EGR cooler (BulletProofDiesel ’05 f350)
Ordered 6E7Z-9A332-B Stand Pipes and Dummy Plugs
Ordered ARP 250-4202 ARP Diesel Head Stud Kit 250-4203 (XDP)
- ????? Gages, EOT, ECT, Boost & EGT


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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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I would add the dummy plugs and standpipes kit: 6E7Z-9A332-B

Also the blue fuel pressure regulatior spring (if you don't already have it): 6E7Z-9C165-B
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Thanks Mark..
I've been debating the pipes and plugs... They have been added.

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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If your EOT & ECT is 5 to 10deg different with no issues, then why change the EGR/Oil cooler now? Why can't you wait until 15* + difference to change out? Then do the stand pip and plugs at that time.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Unfortunately, the 05-07 model year EGR coolers can fail even without the oil cooler plugging. It is a reliability issue IMO. That doesn't mean that all OEM 05-07 EGR coolers are going to fail, it is just that they are not built all that well.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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You will be happey with that DC Power Alternator I still havent heard anyone having problems with one. My DC Power alt pushes my stereo just fine I was EATING OEM alts


The CAC Boots from Dieselsite IIRC had a delamination Issue you may want to send those Back and I think everyones going Riff Raff Boots


Guys wasnt it the Dieselsite Boots that Delaminate?????????????????????????????????Help here anyone ???

What are you using for Gauges???????????How do you know the turbo has dirty Veins vs a Bad Sensor?????I saw you had ECT & EOT what gauge do you have???
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Thanks Benny!

Originally Posted by BLADE35
The CAC Boots from Dieselsite IIRC had a delamination Issue you may want to send those Back and I think everyones going Riff Raff Boots
DANG IT!! outside my return window so I guess I can use them on my shop Vac system. I sure as heck dont want that crap plugging up my cooler.. RiffRaff boots will be ordered tomorrow

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What are you using for Gauges???????????How do you know the turbo has dirty Veins vs a Bad Sensor?????I saw you had ECT & EOT what gauge do you have???
see thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...and-p0478.html
No gages just an A.E. BUT I will be ordering gages this weekend once I figure out what I need

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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Dirk Search on here Dieselsite Boots I am pretty shure those were the bad ones but dont hurt to double check me since you have them

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So you have an AE

Ok how did all the MAF & EBP & MAP & BARO sensors look these sensors control Turbo Vein Position
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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I will check that thread again
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:01 AM
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I see you have a MAF sensor Delema

I know the sensors look diff but your getting a MAF reading so unless its an Inferred Maf Signal you have a MAF Somewhere

Even if was inferred MAF the number should be Higher I would think I could be totaly Wrong to

Guess time for some checking on this I will post back if I find anything I will see if a Tech can help give us an answer on this MAF
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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I did the search and you are correct about the boots.. I guess i just didn’t do enough research up front.. My bad... Can’t be mad at no one but myself.. BUT I won’t use em with the delamination history.. Not on my truck anyway.

All my #'s panned out to be ~ within spec. I don’t drive my rig much and the historical driving patterns lead me to believe the veins are sticking

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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowe
Pic of both electrical plugs.. One connector (in my hand ) has a water tight "Plug/cap" if you will which appears to be the connected needed for the 03/04 MAF. Both part of same harness. I order the MAF online from Toiusley Ford so I am not sure if I can return it??

Does anyone know if one is better than the other?




Ya theres something odd here for shure

here is the FORD MAF value

MAF 0 1.44 2.65 0.5 - 4.75 VOLT Mass Air Flow


You had .08 for MAF acorrding to AE

I know this dont mean much but .08 MAF would be a Bad Value for my 2003 and I dont know how it applied to your 2005

At Idel im right around 1.44volt or so IIRC
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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everything i read told me that 2005 model Ford/Int. removed the MAF and it returned in 06.. Not sure why they took it out but then put it back.. I suspect it was cost savings and didn’t pan out. None the less the A.E. showed the reading but it never varied no matter what. It would be nice to understand what is making up for no MAF but I really haven’t found anything. I can say without a doubt that I don’t have a MAF sensor..<O</O
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowe
everything i read told me that 2005 model Ford/Int. removed the MAF and it returned in 06.. Not sure why they took it out but then put it back.. I suspect it was cost savings and didn’t pan out. None the less the A.E. showed the reading but it never varied no matter what. It would be nice to understand what is making up for no MAF but I really haven’t found anything. I can say without a doubt that I don’t have a MAF sensor..<O</O


Ya I see what you mean
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowe



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Data collection: KOEO-- Idle (690rpm) ----Hi Idle (2500 rpm)

MGP(psi)------- 0------- .62--------- .51

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Theres what you had^^^^^


Below is what Ford calls for Spec MGP Value


MGP (0 KOEO)(0.25 Low Idel) (0.8 High Idel) ( -10 - 30 Sensor range) PRESSURE (psi) Manifold Gauge Pressure


dont know if thats a big enough diff to worrey about honestly

Maybe the turbo clean is just what you need
 
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