Three miscellaneous questions
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Three miscellaneous questions
A little info please, if anyone can help:
Mike
- While browsing my collection of parts supplier catalogs, I noticed that most of the usual suspects stock a hand throttle cable for '48-'50, complete with red "T" labeled **** that matches the other dash controls. My F1 doesn't have this, nor does it have a dash hole to mount one. What's the story? Option? Big trucks only?
- Can I expect to get a reasonably accurate compression gauge reading while turning the motor over by hand?
- Anybody have a decent battery tray (for 6 cyl. truck) available? I think it is different than for the 239, sits on driver's side frame rail & it's smaller. Please private mail/email me if you have one to spare.
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I don't have an answer for number one, really. Most trucks I've seen had a throttle cable in addition to the choke cable. I suppose anything is possible on these old trucks.
No, i don't believe you can turn the engine over by hand fast enough or with enough force to get a good pressure reading. It usually takes 3-5 revolutions for the gauge to pump up.
I have 2 nice battery trays. PM sent.
No, i don't believe you can turn the engine over by hand fast enough or with enough force to get a good pressure reading. It usually takes 3-5 revolutions for the gauge to pump up.
I have 2 nice battery trays. PM sent.
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While browsing my collection of parts supplier catalogs, I noticed that most of the usual suspects stock a hand throttle cable for '48-'50, complete with red "T" labeled **** that matches the other dash controls.
My F1 doesn't have this, nor does it have a dash hole to mount one. What's the story? Option? Big trucks only?
My F1 doesn't have this, nor does it have a dash hole to mount one. What's the story? Option? Big trucks only?
1HC-9775-A 226/254 I-6's / 1RC-9775-A 239 flatties / 2QC-9775-B 1952 215 OHV I-6.
Ford has a nasty habit of removing obsolete part numbers from catalogs when they are updated, and since this catalog was the final printing (1964), I don't know if Ford offered throttle cables for 1948/50.
If someone here has an older parts catalog, they could check.
btw: Are you gonna change your user name when you turn 63 next month?
Do you have a Bob Drake catalog? Bob's been in this hobby longer than most peeps, including Dennis Carpenter, is a wise 'ol owl and a Ford historian.
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Bill (Number-Not-So-Dummy), I didn't exercise a lot of forethought when I chose my handle. This would have been a tolerable mistake had I registered for FTE 40 years ago. I'm actually already 63, since January.
I haven't seen a Bob Drake catalog in some time, it looks like it's time to get a new one.
Wayne, thanks for the quick response & the email.
I haven't seen a Bob Drake catalog in some time, it looks like it's time to get a new one.
Wayne, thanks for the quick response & the email.
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My truck (a 49?) has no hole, no cable. Thanks for asking though, been wondering the same thing!
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OK, you made me look. And the results are interesting. My original November '54 book shows no part in the 9775 section prior to '51. But I did find for 48-50 a "Kit (Hand Throttle)" part number 8RC 9795, fits C,D,Y,T,TH,TL 8 cylinder 239, which consists of the following parts;
1 - 91A 9718 clip
1 - 7RC 9775 control
1 - 8RC 9764 bracket
1 - 8RC 9814 stop
1 - B 14605-A grommet
So there appears to have been some kind of option available, either retrofitted or dealer installed. I know the throttle cable was used in earlier trucks, and I find it somewhat odd that Ford would discontinue it's use, then bring it back a few years later.
One other interesting note I saw with 1RC 9775-A was a footnote mark to reference a notation at the bottom of the page saying that part was "Not supplied; use 1HC 9775-A & cut to required length."
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1. I'm pretty sure the throttle cable was available on larger trucks only.
2. You won't get an accurate compression test by turning the engine over by hand as you need a certain rpm to overcome air loss by the rings etc. Why would you want to do it that way? Is the engine out of the vehicle? If it is you can install the bellhousing and starter and do a comp test on the ground with just a battery.
3. Don't have a battery tray.
2. You won't get an accurate compression test by turning the engine over by hand as you need a certain rpm to overcome air loss by the rings etc. Why would you want to do it that way? Is the engine out of the vehicle? If it is you can install the bellhousing and starter and do a comp test on the ground with just a battery.
3. Don't have a battery tray.
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I have the early parts manuals. I do not see the part in the 1948-49 parts manual (October 1949) or in the 1948-51 manual (January 1951). The part number first appears in the 1948-52 parts manual (January 1952) and is listed for 51-52 trucks. It's also present in the 1954 print and later years parts manuals.
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OK, you made me look. And the results are interesting. My original November '54 book shows no part in the 9775 section prior to '51. But I did find for 48-50 a "Kit (Hand Throttle)" part number 8RC 9795, fits C,D,Y,T,TH,TL 8 cylinder 239, which consists of the following parts;
1 - 91A 9718 clip
1 - 7RC 9775 control
1 - 8RC 9764 bracket
1 - 8RC 9814 stop
1 - B 14605-A grommet
So there appears to have been some kind of option available, either retrofitted or dealer installed. I know the throttle cable was used in earlier trucks, and I find it somewhat odd that Ford would discontinue it's use, then bring it back a few years later.
1 - 91A 9718 clip
1 - 7RC 9775 control
1 - 8RC 9764 bracket
1 - 8RC 9814 stop
1 - B 14605-A grommet
So there appears to have been some kind of option available, either retrofitted or dealer installed. I know the throttle cable was used in earlier trucks, and I find it somewhat odd that Ford would discontinue it's use, then bring it back a few years later.
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Haven't seen them on a Bonus Built truck but have seen them alot with trucks that ran PTO, so I would say that 56f1hundred got it right. the ones I've seen wasn't mounted in the dash but in a bracket under the dash.
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I don't agree. Post 8: 52 Merc posted the part number for the 1948/50 throttle cable kit: 8RC-9795
When a part fits F1 and larger trucks, it may have a C as the 3rd digit. C = F1. If the part fits F2 and etc = 8RD. If F3 and etc = 8RY.
So, why does the part number prefix contain a C if the throttle cable kit wasn't installed on F1's? Doesn't make any sense.
F1's were available with throttle cables in 1951 & 1952, so why not 1948/50?
In post 11, I said there's one of these 8RC-9795 throttle cable kits available NOS. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the instruction sheet sez F1/F6.
When a part fits F1 and larger trucks, it may have a C as the 3rd digit. C = F1. If the part fits F2 and etc = 8RD. If F3 and etc = 8RY.
So, why does the part number prefix contain a C if the throttle cable kit wasn't installed on F1's? Doesn't make any sense.
F1's were available with throttle cables in 1951 & 1952, so why not 1948/50?
In post 11, I said there's one of these 8RC-9795 throttle cable kits available NOS. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the instruction sheet sez F1/F6.