Snap Ring help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Snap Ring help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok here is a picture of the snap ring im trying to install on the inside lip of this output shaft bearing. I have tried everything to put it in including a piston ring compressor the ring is way to strong and it seems impossible to fit down the the inside diameter. Can some one poin t me in the right direction?
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First are you sure that ring goes on the inside of the race? Is there a grove around the inside for it to lock into? Looks to me like it should go around the outside in the groove near the other end of the race. It would have no functional purpose to go inside, but would hold the bearing in place around the outside.It would be simple to put on the outside with a pair of reverse action spring ring pliers.
Here's a couple options to try if it is really supposed to go inside:
First would be to put the shaft in a vice so the bearing is sitting horizontally against the vice jaws so both hands are available to work on the ring. Put the first 1/4 of the ring into the groove at about 4 or 5 O'clock to the split. Clamp a pair of vice grips on the race near the split so the jaws overhang the race so the ring can't pop out. Use another pair of pliers to work around and push the ring into place from the portion already in place. You may need a large screw driver to help compress the ring.
I have also used a worm screw style hose clamp as a compressor including one time as a piston ring compressor when I had to repair a spun rod bearing in a friend's driveway 1500 miles from home.
Here's a couple options to try if it is really supposed to go inside:
First would be to put the shaft in a vice so the bearing is sitting horizontally against the vice jaws so both hands are available to work on the ring. Put the first 1/4 of the ring into the groove at about 4 or 5 O'clock to the split. Clamp a pair of vice grips on the race near the split so the jaws overhang the race so the ring can't pop out. Use another pair of pliers to work around and push the ring into place from the portion already in place. You may need a large screw driver to help compress the ring.
I have also used a worm screw style hose clamp as a compressor including one time as a piston ring compressor when I had to repair a spun rod bearing in a friend's driveway 1500 miles from home.
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there is no grove but there is a lip and if my memory serves me right it goes inside but seems like you said it should go on outside however if it went outside it would not allow the tailhousing to slide over that bear as there is no space. its a 1959 F100 3 speed. I have no idea what its purpose is inside either
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i wish that were the case. on the 1959 ford f100 they have car stlye tailhousings which are made to the exact opening for the race to snuggly fit into so th ering wont work there so it has to go were i removed it from the inside lip of the bearing
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Here's some exploded diagrams that may help.
Ford Truck Technical Drawings and Schematics - Section G - Drivetrain (Transmission, Clutch, Transfer Case, etc.)
Ford Truck Technical Drawings and Schematics - Section G - Drivetrain (Transmission, Clutch, Transfer Case, etc.)
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i have the diagram for my year 1959 along with the shop manual however it doesnt say how to install it into the bearing lip the outer grove is not for the ring in this instance
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It seems like Ross has already given you the answer...
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i have tried the vise grips and his suggestion with no success. The problem is this is a 1959 f100 3 speed which changed slightly what you guys are refering to is the 48-56 stlye which goes on the outside grove. Im going to post in the 59 section see if i get any hits thanks for everything so far guys good stuff
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My manual only goes to 56 but shows a "56/" for this, which means '56 and on. Unlike the drawings for the 48-52, this shows a definite groove on the OD of the bearing, and at the rear. Could the snap ring go on the inside of the case? That would make some sense, because the snap ring 7064 behind the bearing is not used on the earlier trannies, only the 7059 further back.
Look at the wear marks on the snap ring and the case, you should be able to see where it goes.
Look at the wear marks on the snap ring and the case, you should be able to see where it goes.
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Edit: I'm assuming the later model assembles the same way as the early. I don't think the longer tailshaft would make a difference, but it's possible. At any rate, I have never seen a snap ring on the ID of a race, right against the *****.