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Old May 22, 2012 | 04:57 AM
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Question that dang 352....

i am a multiple classic ford truck owner and one still baffles me to this day... i own among other things a 1966 f100 custom cab camper special it came factory with a spicer/dana 60 rearend with 5 hole studs a four speed and an ac equipped 352... this lil 352 has caused me all sorts of grief the most recent deal is that it decided it was hungry for dizzys i removed motor cleaned oil pan and rest of motor replaced cam bearings and installed new cam and dizzy....it lasted 3 days before it ate the gear off if the dizzy same as before any idea what causes this...any information is greatly appreciated
 
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Ive owned a few of these trucks with 352s never encountered the problem you are having. Just off the top it sounds like and alignment problem of some sort. How long were you driving it before you had the initial problem and did you do anything to it before the problem arose?

Went back and read your initial post again. You say you cleaned the pan of forgien material. Did you remove the oil pump and shaft to see if there is some sort of problem developing there. The oil pump is driven by the shaft coming from the bottom of the dist. Did you remove and reinstall the intake manifold? Is the alignment good there?
 
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Old May 22, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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i would say the same thing as buzz
but add that did you ck the cam for foreign materal the cam drives the dis
also the oil pump could be jammed?
 
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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Did you read the instructions that came with the cam as to what distributor gear material to use. Use the material the cam specifies.

Most new cams require steel gears and will eat the bronze or cast iron ones.

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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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could the thrust bearing be bad on the crank stressing the cam
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:42 AM
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I had completely replaced oil pump and drive rod i removed all material i could possibly get to and i did all the things my brother in law/mechanic advised me to since he has the years and time using the same motors and even he and his father are baffled at how it behaved...and the cam recommended a melonized dizzy gear which the mallory's i used had melonized gears...the motor is ti---ght no play back and forth against thrust bearing...i drive it daily for about a year before it had this incident.... i have drag raced this truck previously and on certain occasions raised both front tires leaving the line but that was months before...as soon as i started treating her nice is when she started breaking
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:47 AM
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i have since this happened last spring put the 352 on a motor stand in my shop and installed a 391hd industrial in its place just so i could drive my gal til 352's issue is resolved i miss the rpms and gas mileage but i love that raw torque
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by smokenchoken
i own among other things a 1966 f100 custom cab camper special it came factory with a spicer/dana 60 rearend with 5 hole studs a four speed and an ac equipped 352.

This lil 352 has caused me all sorts of grief the most recent deal is that it decided it was hungry for dizzys i removed motor cleaned oil pan and rest of motor replaced cam bearings and installed new cam and dizzy....it lasted 3 days before it ate the gear off if the dizzy same as before any idea what causes this...any information is greatly appreciated
There is more than one dizzy gear, who knows if the dizzy is original to the engine?

Look on the base of the dizzy for a stamped ID number (similar to this: C5TF-12127-A), post what it is

You do not have a Dana 60, as it was only installed in F250's.

What you have is either the optional Dana 60.2 or Dana 60.3 with Limited Slip, both were available in 1966 F100's.

Post the AXLE code stamped on the Warranty Plate.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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glad to see u back nd hope every thing is good for you!!
 
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Old May 27, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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your dizzy code is the same that i have on original dizzy and there wasnt a warranty plate on the readend but it did have the pat # 2018188 and on the passenger side it just has a 60 on it im sorry i know nothing of a 60.2 or 60.3 but i know from former owner it had 3.54 gear and it was swapped for a 4.10 and a style of minispool i wish he would have left its gears i have amazing low end power but it tops out to quickly
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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little update...... as i was moping around the shop bored and broke getting depressed thinking of what i should do with my old motors i went back to my old 352 (which i have found out is not even a 352 anymore it has the flat tops and stock 352 bore but a 390 crank installed so someone put some time and $ into it at one time) and got to looking at it thinking about pulling it apart my cousin stopped by and we got to chit chatting and he started looking it over and he thinks he has solved my problem so here goes (it was this way when i got it its not of my doing) we took the flywheel off and looked at the back of the motor because i explained to him how the old cam had been walking back and forth from what i could figure and he points out what he thought the flaw was and the very back of the cam rests against what looks like an oversize freeze plug....and it was apparently installed backwards as in the flat face was pointing toward the transmission instead of into motor so we pulled flywheel off of another FE i had and it was in the correct way so hopefully i can just pop that bugger out and install a new one in and i should be good to go right fellas?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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little update...... as i was moping around the shop bored and broke getting depressed thinking of what i should do with my old motors i went back to my old 352 (which i have found out is not even a 352 anymore it has the flat tops and stock 352 bore but a 390 crank installed so someone put some time and $ into it at one time) and got to looking at it thinking about pulling it apart my cousin stopped by and we got to chit chatting and he started looking it over and he thinks he has solved my problem so here goes (it was this way when i got it its not of my doing) we took the flywheel off and looked at the back of the motor because i explained to him how the old cam had been walking back and forth from what i could figure and he points out what he thought the flaw was and the very back of the cam rests against what looks like an oversize freeze plug....and it was apparently installed backwards as in the flat face was pointing toward the transmission instead of into motor so we pulled flywheel off of another FE i had and it was in the correct way so hopefully i can just pop that bugger out and install a new one in and i should be good to go right fellas?
Cup side of cam plug goes towards cam.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by smokenchoken
i explained to him how the old cam had been walking back and forth from what i could figure and he points out what he thought the flaw was and the very back of the cam rests against what looks like an oversize freeze plug....and it was apparently installed backwards as in the flat face was pointing toward the transmission instead of into motor so we pulled flywheel off of another FE i had and it was in the correct way so hopefully i can just pop that bugger out and install a new one in and i should be good to go right fellas?
No, camshaft thrust is NOT controlled by the rear plug...

But I would recommend a really close inspection of the teeth on the cam itself...
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Camshaft endplay is controled by thrust plate between timing gear and front of cam (bolted to front of block).

My old book says .001" to .007" endplay for FE...
 
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