And the 25 post bump....

 

Well it still wouldnt let me PM you the info you want so I will post it below
Must be wrong on post count maybe 30 posts IDK for shure your getting really close though

And If your AE has the FORD Enhanced Bundle you will be able to check all kinds of things really everything like FICM and HPO system. And you will also be able to do Ford specific Testing since you can control Valves and Actuators ie... VGT,IPR and more

your set with AE



OPERATING VALUES
Just make shure the numbers are taken exactly like this
Truck in PARK OR NEUTRAL all times during test
ECT at 190* or close to And EOT at 185* or higher
-------------------------------------------------------------------
KOEO=Key On Engine Off =record value
Low Idel (truck idel on its own)=record value
High Idel (2500RPM)=record value
And the last set of numbers are sensor operating range. If it falls out of this range I beleive a DTC/CEL will be set.
Values below are given in this order^^^Left to right
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Acronym Key On Low Idle High Idle Operating Range Measurement Units Description they are listed in this order left to right helps to break it down like rows and collums
ACCS OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON OFF/ON AC Cycle Switch
ACP OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN/ CLOSED OPEN/ CLOSED AC Pressure Switch
APP 0 0 13 0 - 17.75 PERCENT Accelerator Pedal Position
APP1 4.0 4.0 3.4 0.7 - 4.2 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 1
APP2 1.4 1.4 1.9 1.4 - 4.1 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 2
APP3 0.9 0.9 1.4 0.8 - 3.5 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 3
APP_MODE CT CT PT CT, PT, WOT CT, PT, WOT Accelerator Pedal Position
AST 00:00 00:07 01:00 - min : sec Time Since Start
B+ 12.6 13.3 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLT Battery Voltage
BARO 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI) Barometric Pressure
BOO OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pedal
BPA OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pressure Applied
CLRDIST 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since DTCs Cleared
CLRWRMUP 2 2 2 - Numeric Value Number of Warmups Since DTCs Cleared
CMPFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT CMP Status
CPP/PNP NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL DRIVE/ NEUTRAL Clutch Pedal Position
DECHOKE No No No - Yes/No Dechoke Mode
DRIVECNT 6 7 7 0 - 65535 NUMBER Valid Drive Counter
DTCCNT 0 0 0 0 - 255 NUMBER DTC Count
ECT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 121 (-40 - 250) TEMPERA- TURE °C (°F) Coolant Temperature
ECT_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT ECT Fault
EGR EVAL NO NO NO YES NO/YES EGR Evaluated
EGR DC# 0 0 - 15 32 0 - 44 PERCENT EGR Duty Cycle
EGR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT 0 - 44 FAULT/NO FAULT EGR Status
EGRVP 0.8 0.8 - 1.0 1.3 0.6 - 3.5 VOLT EGR Valve Position
EGRVPDES 0 0 9.72 0 - 14 PERCENT EGR Desired
EOT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 150 (-40 - 302) TEMPERA- TURE °C (°F) Oil Temperature
EOTFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT EOT Status
EP 103 (15) 110 (16) 110 (16) 55 - 607 (8 - 88) kPa (PSI) Exhaust Pressure
EP_V 0.8 1.2 1.3 0.4 - 4.7 VOLT Exhaust Pressure
EP DSD 3.26 2.43 2.13 PSI Exhaust Pressure Desired
FANSS 0 533 488 0 - 4000 RPM Fan Speed
FANSSM LOW LOW LOW LOW LOW/HIGH Cooling Fan Driver
FAN VAR # 0 0 0 0 - 100 Percent Fan Speed Monitor
FAN VAR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Fan Speed Monitor
FICMSYNC NO YES YES YES YES/NO Synchronization from FICM
FICM_LPWR 12.0 13.5 13.5 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Logic Power FICM logic power from the FICM relay.
FICM_MPWR 47 47.5 47.5 40 - 52 VOLTS FICM Main Power FICM injector power supply from the FICM relay. Ford says anything below 45 volts is BAD
FICM_VPWR 12.0 14.0 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Vehicle Power FICM vehicle power from the ignition switch.
FLI 36.1 36.1 34.1 0 - 100 PERCENT Fuel Level Indicator
FP# ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump
FPM ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump Monitor
FUELPW 0 990 680 0 - 50000 (μ seconds) Fuel Pulse Width
GENB_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 2 Output Fault
GENFIL OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Generator Fault Indicator
GEN_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 1 Output Fault
GPCTM 0 0 0 0 - 180 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Coil On Time
GPL ON/OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Glow Plug Indicator
GPLTM 0 0 0 1 - 10 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Indicator On Time
IAT 98.6 98.6 96.8 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE (°F) Intake Air Temp (MAF Assembly)
IAT2 113 113 113 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE °F Intake Air Temp (Manifold Air)
IATFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT IAT Status
ICP 0.2 1.0 1.8 0.15 - 4.7 VOLT Injection Control Pressure
ICP_DES 0 625.5 1400 - 1450 0 - 4045 PRESSURE (PSI) ICP Desired
INJ1_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ2_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ3_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ4_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ5_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ6_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ7_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ8_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ_TIM 0 -8.71 +3.5 -50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)
IPR # 14.84 24 40.60 0 - 50 PERCENT Injection Pressure Regulator
LOAD 0 12.5 14 0 - 100 PERCENT Calculated Load Value
MAF 0 1.44 2.65 0.5 - 4.75 VOLT Mass Air Flow
MAF_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Mass Air Flow Status
MAP 96 (14) 96 (14) 103 (15) 41 - 324 (6 - 47) kPa (PSI) Manifold Absolute Pressure
MAP_V 1.30 1.33 1.40 0.5 - 4.5 VOLT Manifold Absolute Pressure
MFDES 0 7.5 10.7 0 - 100 MASS mg/stroke Mass Fuel Desired
MGP 0 0.25 0.8 -10 - 30 PRESSURE (psi) Manifold Gauge Pressure
MIL OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF Malfunction Indicator
MIL_DIS 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since MIL Activated
MISF_EVAL NO NO YES YES NO/YES Misfire Monitor
MP_LRN YES YES YES YES NO/YES Learned Misfire Correction
NM 0 0 0 0 - 65535 NUMBER Number of Misfires
PATSENABL ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED/ DISABLED Passive Anti-Theft
PBA OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Park Brake Applied
PNP Neutral Neutral Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Position Switch
RPM 0 628 2500 0 - 4096 RPM Revolutions Per Minute
RPMSD 625 625 625 625 RPM Desired Idle RPM
SCCS NONE NONE NONE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE Speed Control
Switches
STRT_RLY DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED/ ENABLED Starter Relay
SYNC NO YES YES YES NO/YES CMP and CKP Synchronized
TORQUE 0 9 - 20 50 400 Nm Net Engine Torque
TRIP NO NO NO YES N0/YES OBD Trip Completed
TRIP CNT 0 0 0 0 0 - 255 Trip Count
VFDES 0 9 14 0 - 250 VOLUME mm^3 Volume Fuel Desired
VGTDC # 0 73 43 0 - 100 PERCENT Turbo Duty Cycle
VGT_F NO NO NO NO NO/YES Turbo Fault
VREF 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
VSS 0 0 0 0 - 120 SPEED (MPH) Vehicle Speed
WAC OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF WOT A/C Cutoff
WFS NO NO NO NO NO/YES Water in Fuel

 

Was what you supplied me on here done with AE? To be honest I have only used AE to look at individual sensors and never did anything on scale of what you want me to do with it. I have used the balance test and shut injectors down as well as turbo control and EGR but to retrieve what you sent me is more then what I have ever did with AE. I guess I feel a little stupid now, but I need to ask If I can, How to do this procedure with AE so I can get those numbers to you?

 

Oh, and again thanks for all your help on this....

 

I do understand you need readings with key on engine off and readings at idle and at 2500 rpm.....

 

Holy cow! I wuz just reading that post and my hair caught on fire!

 

My head exploded a little bit as well when I seen the post. I hope when he gets the time he can explain how to do it and maybe break it down a little. I have the AE with the proline but I would not call myself anywhere an expert with it. not enough time with it to know all the ins and outs.

I used to build race engines back in the 80s and 90s as well as being a part time crew chief with drag cars and scca cars. None of which had anywhere the level of computer controlled stuff on them. I am much better with gas engines but since my truck has been out of warranty I have needed to jump in and take over the repairs of it. This is the first time I have been stumped with a problem with it......

 

You Got it^^^^^ and ECT around 190* and EOT 185* Basicaly want Truck up to operating temp if Possible and in Park or Nutral


I Got this list from Cheezit so Send some reps Cheezits Way

I see at 30 Posts you can Receive Private Messages NOW I knew you was close

 

Just make shure the numbers are taken exactly like this
Truck in PARK OR NEUTRAL all times during test
ECT at 190* or close to And EOT at 185* or higher
-------------------------------------------------------------------
KOEO=Key On Engine Off =record value
Low Idel (truck idel on its own)=record value
High Idel (2500RPM)=record value
And the last set of numbers are sensor operating range. If it falls out of this range I beleive a DTC/CEL will be set.
Values below are given in this order^^^Left to right


Lets break one Down for you Everything working right these are the operating values you want to see For RPM

RPM 0 628 2500 0 - 4096 RPM Revolutions Per Minute

KOEO=0rpm
Low Idel=628rpm
High Idel=2500rpm
Operating Range of said sensor=0-4096RPM


This is the imporatant stuff
Basicaly you can break each sensor Down like this even in collums and rows if you want


So if you know how to control things with AE You have the hard stuff figured out the rest of it is just taking your readings and compare to the List as the List is the Value Per a Good Sensor




Does this Help Any???????????????????????????

 

I am thinking Cheezit may have used the ford software for this information and AE displays and does it a little different so I may have to do some translation. The things I will read will be FICM voltage, ICP pressure, IAT1 and IAT2 and the IPR at all the RPMs needed. If I recall, the idle control of AE would not allow it to go above 2100 because I used this feature to do the coolant flush a little over a year ago. I have a few versions newer since then....

 

Dont Make it so Involved with the AE

Guess Im saying dont USE AE to try and SET RPM to HIGH Idel

Just check these sensors same as I do with my ScanGaugeII I just put the sensors I want to see on the screen and then I CONTROLL RPM with my Foot on Acelerater Pedal

Basicaly you want to set AE to READ SENSORS IN REAL TIME and YOU control RPM with the RIGHT FOOT And use the Dash RPM Gauge

This will get close enough you can even set AE to read RPM so you take the value exact perfict time using a Digital RPM Readout from AE

Dont Try to Have the AE control RPM just set it to read Sensor values

These Values I have posted are GOOD with any SCANNER as long as it reads right

Your AE will Do it just FINE

Your AE with the Ford Bundle Figures the Values Same as a FORD IDM Scanner

 

Oh and Dont worrey about IAT1 & IAT2 for the time being

EGR Actual and EGR desired will tell you more than IAT1 & IAT2

Are you getting a CEL/DTC for IAT1 & IAT2 or something??????????????????

 

No codes at all....

 

Its Just never Easy is it LOL

Let us know how you make out

 

I have a 2004 with a very similar problem but it also blows black smoke just before it misfires. So, when engine is hot, under power (over half throttle) first I see black exhaust start. If I keep my foot in it, the exhaust gets darker and then the misfire happens. Going up hills, I am forced to keep backing off the throttle to keep this from happening. I did change the FICM Because I was told it was the main culprit. It did not fix the problem.

any ideas?