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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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3g alternator confusion

So I got to do but I'm confused because my truck will charge the battery but when I have the lights on and I honk the horn the lights will dim and the horn will barely want to sound. I tried searching the forum to see if anyone else had this prob but I couldn't find anything my battery is 4 years old, I just got a reman alternatorand it didn't fix the problem. I checked every connection more then twice to see if everything is ok and I can't see anything wrong connected
 

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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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I think the alternator is not the only thing that is confusing you. I think the ability to write in a decent scentence also has you confused.

I, nor will most others, am not able to tell one bit what it is your issue is or what your question is.

If you want adults to respond, then write like one
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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I'm sorry i was on my phone but now i am using the computer.
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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I think it's Grubbworm who has a lot of charging system diagnosis stuff in one of his Albums.
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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-4yo battery
-New rebuilt 3g alternator
-Not charging. Unable to do lights and horn at same time.

I think that's what's going on.

So did the lights and horn start and that's why you replaced the alternator?

What voltage do you have at the battery terminals while running?

If you disconnect the negative battery cable and measure in AMPS between the battery and the cable how much draw is there? (engine not running)

If you take the battery out of the truck and let it sit by itself, does the voltage drop?
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Get a voltmeter out and check the battery voltage while the truck is idling.
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave804
-4yo battery
-New rebuilt 3g alternator
-Not charging. Unable to do lights and horn at same time.

I think that's what's going on.

So did the lights and horn start and that's why you replaced the alternator?

What voltage do you have at the battery terminals while running?

If you disconnect the negative battery cable and measure in AMPS between the battery and the cable how much draw is there? (engine not running)

If you take the battery out of the truck and let it sit by itself, does the voltage drop?
1. Yes, i hate to just throw money away like that.
2. I haven't checked it yet with this alternator.
3. I'll check that tomorrow at work.
4. If i take the battery out and let it sit on the floor?? Haven't done this yet.
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fordboy300
4. If i take the battery out and let it sit on the floor?? Haven't done this yet.
Right, remove the battery from the vehicle and see if it still discharges all by itself. This separates the two, and any parasitic draw that may exist in the truck's wiring can have absolutely zero effect with the battery someplace else. A battery with a failing cell will still fail, even on the garage floor.
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Right, remove the battery from the vehicle and see if it still discharges all by itself. This separates the two, and any parasitic draw that may exist in the truck's wiring can have absolutely zero effect with the battery someplace else. A battery with a failing cell will still fail, even on the garage floor.

okay I will disconnect it tonight. But I don't know if this is a myth but won't a battery discharge if left on a concrete floor?
 
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Originally Posted by fordboy300
okay I will disconnect it tonight. But I don't know if this is a myth but won't a battery discharge if left on a concrete floor?
I've always heard that is true as well. I don't know if it's true or not but I've always put mine on a peice of wood just to be sure.

I find it hard to believe that it would, being in a plastic case...but stranger things have been true.
 
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Wives tale from the times of wooden batteries. (really!)
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Wives tale from the times of wooden batteries. (really!)

Wooden batteries!!! Come on Jim...really?? They were probably dry cells huh??
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Before Bakelite in the 'teens battery cases were made of lead lined oil rich cypress.
I was friends with an old timer, Difenbach Kleis, that had helped to start Echlin, and had numerous patents to his name.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Before Bakelite in the 'teens battery cases were made of lead lined oil rich cypress.
I was friends with an old timer, Difenbach Kleis, that had helped to start Echlin, and had numerous patents to his name.

Wow, that's cool!! I bet those were some heavy suckers!!
 
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Who knows?
He could have been blowing smoke up my ***.
As an advanced (doctorate) metallurgist he did have cool tales about things like working on the Manhattan Project
 
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