Outrageous price increases?
#31
04-30-2012, 06:22 PM
I bought a Lariat F-250, relatively loaded, 4x4, CC, SB, and 6.0L in 2005. Sticker on it was well north of $40,000. I believe that the cab, trim level, box, etc. had a base price north of $37,000. The 6.0L PSD was a $5,100 MSRP/$4,335 invoice option which automatically nudges the base price up into the $42,000 range.
Even if you considered invoice pricing, that was just above $32,000 for the same cab, trim level, etc. Depending on options, you may still push the price tag into the $40,000 range.
Even if you considered invoice pricing, that was just above $32,000 for the same cab, trim level, etc. Depending on options, you may still push the price tag into the $40,000 range.
#32
04-30-2012, 09:53 PM
2012 F250 Superduty base price is $29,455 on the ford build your own web site.
Lariat is 39,875 and KR is 47,185 (all non diesel)
My 250 lariat was 57k sticker, and 47k after rebates etc. minus my trade. (on 4/3/12 just about a month ago), so there was approx 17k of upgrades from 40k-57k), and 10k from base to lariat.
Sam
Lariat is 39,875 and KR is 47,185 (all non diesel)
My 250 lariat was 57k sticker, and 47k after rebates etc. minus my trade. (on 4/3/12 just about a month ago), so there was approx 17k of upgrades from 40k-57k), and 10k from base to lariat.
Sam
#34
04-30-2012, 11:09 PM
My old 06 F250 Crewcab shortbed FX4, XLT Lariat, 6.0PSD, fully loaded with sunroof and power sliding rear window stickered for $52k. I got it OTD for $42k and that was still a stupid amount of money to spend on a truck. I loved everything about it but the payment.
Wages, bonuses, health benefits for employees are a big portion of why vehicles cost so much. I'm not ******* on the workers, it's just a fact of business today.
Wages, bonuses, health benefits for employees are a big portion of why vehicles cost so much. I'm not ******* on the workers, it's just a fact of business today.
#35
04-30-2012, 11:36 PM
My old 06 F250 Crewcab shortbed FX4, XLT Lariat, 6.0PSD, fully loaded with sunroof and power sliding rear window stickered for $52k. I got it OTD for $42k and that was still a stupid amount of money to spend on a truck. I loved everything about it but the payment.
Wages, bonuses, health benefits for employees are a big portion of why vehicles cost so much. I'm not ******* on the workers, it's just a fact of business today.
Wages, bonuses, health benefits for employees are a big portion of why vehicles cost so much. I'm not ******* on the workers, it's just a fact of business today.
Yeah a truck couldn't be worth more than a few hundred bucks in raw materials, it's all the labour and machining and time that goes into it.
Ford seems to be kicking *** in a few places overseas, it would be interesting to know if theres any difference in quality in the same vehicle assembled in another country.
#36
05-01-2012, 08:12 AM
1990 F-250 MSRP
2 Dr XL Standard Cab LB $13,480
2 Dr STD 4WD Standard Cab LB $14,337
2 Dr STD Standard Cab LB $12,686
2 Dr XLT Lariat 4WD Extended Cab LB $18,926
2 Dr XLT Lariat Extended Cab LB $16,621
2 Dr XL Extended Cab LB $16,377
2 Dr XL 4WD Extended Cab LB $18,682
2 Dr STD Extended Cab LB $15,489
2 Dr STD 4WD Extended Cab LB $17,794
2 Dr XLT Lariat Standard Cab LB $13,974
2 Dr XL 4WD Standard Cab LB $15,131
2 Dr XLT Lariat 4WD Standard Cab LB $15,625
7.3L IDI was a $4840 option in 1994, unable to locate the cost for 1990 but it was probably around that.
2 Dr XL Standard Cab LB $13,480
2 Dr STD 4WD Standard Cab LB $14,337
2 Dr STD Standard Cab LB $12,686
2 Dr XLT Lariat 4WD Extended Cab LB $18,926
2 Dr XLT Lariat Extended Cab LB $16,621
2 Dr XL Extended Cab LB $16,377
2 Dr XL 4WD Extended Cab LB $18,682
2 Dr STD Extended Cab LB $15,489
2 Dr STD 4WD Extended Cab LB $17,794
2 Dr XLT Lariat Standard Cab LB $13,974
2 Dr XL 4WD Standard Cab LB $15,131
2 Dr XLT Lariat 4WD Standard Cab LB $15,625
7.3L IDI was a $4840 option in 1994, unable to locate the cost for 1990 but it was probably around that.
#37
05-01-2012, 08:21 AM
your salary the same as it was way back when ?
Housing the same as it was ?
and come November it will get worse !
#38
05-01-2012, 08:54 AM
steel prices, steel, price data, 2012 world steel prices, 2011, pricing
It's between $700-1,100 per ton for steel. Pretty sure that high strength steel is even more than that, and these trucks use a lot of it.
Assuming that your 4-ton truck is made of mostly steel you're looking at around $4,000 just for the raw materials. And of course we know that's not true, and the majority of other materials cost much more by weight. I would guess $5-10,000 just in raw materials.
#39
05-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Not even close.
steel prices, steel, price data, 2012 world steel prices, 2011, pricing
It's between $700-1,100 per ton for steel. Pretty sure that high strength steel is even more than that, and these trucks use a lot of it.
Assuming that your 4-ton truck is made of mostly steel you're looking at around $4,000 just for the raw materials. And of course we know that's not true, and the majority of other materials cost much more by weight. I would guess $5-10,000 just in raw materials.
steel prices, steel, price data, 2012 world steel prices, 2011, pricing
It's between $700-1,100 per ton for steel. Pretty sure that high strength steel is even more than that, and these trucks use a lot of it.
Assuming that your 4-ton truck is made of mostly steel you're looking at around $4,000 just for the raw materials. And of course we know that's not true, and the majority of other materials cost much more by weight. I would guess $5-10,000 just in raw materials.
I don't have any facts to prove you wrong (not that you are), but I think this could be a very interesting conversation !!
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05-01-2012, 05:00 PM
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#41
05-05-2012, 01:14 PM
The key to buying anything is patience...
I purchased my 2005 F350 XL 4X4 regular cab four years ago. The truck was three years old with only 24K miles. The truck was like new with no rust and no dents or body damage. The truck had a sticker price of $31,530.00 but I purchased it for $16,500 plus TTL and it still had the factory warranty.
I purchased my 2005 F350 XL 4X4 regular cab four years ago. The truck was three years old with only 24K miles. The truck was like new with no rust and no dents or body damage. The truck had a sticker price of $31,530.00 but I purchased it for $16,500 plus TTL and it still had the factory warranty.
#42
05-05-2012, 01:20 PM
I agree 100% with this post. I bought my '04 Lariat for a touch over $18K three years ago. It had 76K miles on it and was in absolutely mint condition, not a mark anywhere, inside or out. The original sticker was about twice what I paid, so essentially, the original owner lost over $20K (it had new wheels and tires when I bought it) and owned it 5 years. To lose that much, I would have to give the truck away for free in the next couple years, which won't happen. I know it's quite a thrill to get the first new anything in your circle of buddies, but I honestly don't know how anyone can expect to get ahead financially by tossing $20K+ in the crapper every 5 years just to have a nice truck.
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