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figuring out my tow weight

Looking at a few calculators online, according to one, my F350 crewcab 7.3 Dually can only haul a 12k trailer?

Heres my specs if someone wants to let me know if I am wrong

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Front GAWR 4850LB/2199KG
Rear GAWR 8250LB/3742KG
GCWR 20,000LB
GVWR 11,500LB

My trailer which I have hauled about 10,000 miles so far cross country has the GVWR as 14165LB/6431KG

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I think my 350 is rated at 12,500. I might be wrong. I am sure they will pull a lot more. The problem is not always how much they will pull, but will they stop. I have a dump trailer that I tow which is usually overloaded. I always stay off the major highways and keep the speed low. One time I lost my trailer brakes coming to a light. It pushed me right through the intersection. It was a good thing nothing was coming.
 
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I think my 350 is rated at 12,500. I might be wrong. I am sure they will pull a lot more. The problem is not always how much they will pull, but will they stop. I have a dump trailer that I tow which is usually overloaded. I always stay off the major highways and keep the speed low. One time I lost my trailer brakes coming to a light. It pushed me right through the intersection. It was a good thing nothing was coming.

Ouch! Bad time to loose the trailer brakes

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I could be wrong, I was once, but I think my 250 has the same tow rating. It just can't hold as much.
 
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Seems to me that my F250 was rated for 12,900 (memory fuzzy) on 5th wheel. All the 2" hitch trucks were 10,000 lb limited on bumper pull.

I think the limiting factor is the GCWR at 20,000 lb, the heavier your truck, the lighter trailer that is ok.

A 2wd reg cab 250 will be rated to tow more than a 4wd crew cab 350 if engine, trans and axle are the same and both have the same GCWR.
 
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PEI: The biggest problem I see is what your trailer pin weight is.
If 14,165 is your loaded trailer weight, and you figure 15 to 20% for pin weight, you are going to have a pin weight of 2124# to 2833# Our Cargo capacity is just over 2000# counting fuel, wife, hitch, dog, and tool box.
Now I will not say that you cannot handle your trailer load. I am just saying be aware of how these things are rated and not to get too heavy.


Edit: The best thing to do is weigh your truck and trailer when ready for travel
 
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PEI: The biggest problem I see is what your trailer pin weight is.
If 14,165 is your loaded trailer weight, and you figure 15 to 20% for pin weight, you are going to have a pin weight of 2124# to 2833# Our Cargo capacity is just over 2000# counting fuel, wife, hitch, dog, and tool box.
Now I will not say that you cannot handle your trailer load. I am just saying be aware of how these things are rated and not to get too heavy.

Just found the specs on the trailer.

Dry Weight (lbs/kg) 11105 / 5037.2
GVWR (lbs/kgs) 14165 / 6425.2
Hitch Weight (lbs/kgs) 2165 / 982
 
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With an 8000# truck and a 11000# Trailer + 1000 # of your Stuff. You are about at your limit. Enjoy.

My truck weighs in right at 8000, and my loaded trailer goes around 10,000.
I have an F250 4x4with camper package.
 
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Originally Posted by hammer65
With an 8000# truck and a 11000# Trailer + 1000 # of your Stuff. You are about at your limit. Enjoy.

My truck weighs in right at 8000, and my loaded trailer goes around 10,000.
I have an F250 4x4with camper package.

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So after looking at the numbers on the sticker on the rv, (14k lbs) then the ones from the RV website, the 14k lbs must be what the max weight is loaded? It showed on the sticker my max cargo weight was allowed 3155lb.
 
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Is 3150 the allowable cargo weight for the trailer? Check the door sticker on the truck for it's GVCW. Then compare that to 15 to 20% of the trailer weight, plus fuel weight, people hitch, tools etc.
Again, have your truck weighed on each axle, then weigh it with the trailer hooked up.
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I had 7000-pound boat/trailer brakes fail to engage while pulling with an E350 - it pushed me right through the intersection with all four locked up. Rude awakening there. I inspected the mechanism and a screw was out of place on the surge activator - minor fix... luckily.

Here's something to consider: If you get in an accident where exceeding the tow capacity could be brought into question, and an accident investigator or the insurance company probes into this - the liability could land on you, even if your driving wasn't at fault. I'd look into it some more before you just take my word for it.
 
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I have a 25+5 gooseneck with a 22k GVWR of its own. I pull it behind my 2000 F350. The catch in Iowa is that if the combined GVWR is over 26k you are supposed to be driving a class A CDL, same thing as semi's but ya don't need the air brake cert. Heaviest item I ever had on it a 15K forklift struggled to unload it.... so I know I must have been grossing high 30's. I defintiely knew it was there....even with an F6.
 
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Originally Posted by willeo6709
I have a 25+5 gooseneck with a 22k GVWR of its own. I pull it behind my 2000 F350. The catch in Iowa is that if the combined GVWR is over 26k you are supposed to be driving a class A CDL, same thing as semi's but ya don't need the air brake cert. Heaviest item I ever had on it a 15K forklift struggled to unload it.... so I know I must have been grossing high 30's. I defintiely knew it was there....even with an F6.
CDL is not usually required on private vehicles, only commercial. Luckily I have a class A so it wouldn't matter. I know at the port of entry, they go off of GVW rating. I do not know if its different for commercial vehicles. The registration shows what your max weight can be total on commercial vehicles. I do not see anything on my personal registration, so I am not sure what we can legally pull. I will have to see what my door sticker shows. I imagine we could pull at least 14K if not more.
 
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Originally Posted by INFRNL
CDL is not usually required on private vehicles, only commercial. Luckily I have a class A so it wouldn't matter. I know at the port of entry, they go off of GVW rating. I do not know if its different for commercial vehicles. The registration shows what your max weight can be total on commercial vehicles. I do not see anything on my personal registration, so I am not sure what we can legally pull. I will have to see what my door sticker shows.
I imagine we could pull at least 14K if not more.


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Thanks everyone!


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