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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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waterpump/backing plate question

I am doing a resto-mod on a 1977 f-100 2wd. Have the 460 and the TCI C-6 all installed. Ordered a edelbrock waterpump for it, Edelbrock says to use ford's backing plate C8SZ-8508a. My question is, when I tore this engine down for the rebuild, there was no backing plate on the water pump. Was a ford waterpump.
Now this is a truck 460 with the steel timing cover and not the aluminum(if that matters). Do I need this backing plate? Did the previous owner of this 460 goof? It had been worked on before, so it's not stock, not sure whether I need this backing plate, I haven't cut any corners as of yet and am not ready to start.
Thanks for any help.
BTW this is a 79 460 if that matters.


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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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waterpump/backing plate question

I always thought that all 460 had the aluminum front cover.
 
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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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I was told that the truck blocks had the cast steel timing cover. Mine is definately steel. Heavy as hell:-)
Mac in Maine

part number D1JE-8059-AA

I had asked my machinist to wash my timing cover and he said he couldn't because all the 460 covers were aluminum. I took it up to him and he said that was the first steel timing cover he had seen on a 460(but they deal alot more in "the other brand")
 

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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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waterpump/backing plate question

what's the front of the cover look like where the pump bolts on, ie flat, recessed?
 
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Old May 1, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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waterpump/backing plate question

I've torn down a few car and truck 460 engines and never found anything but alloy timing cover cases. I haven'd messed with the early Lincoln 460 which had the power steering pump mounted there, maybe that's a possibility?
 
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Old May 1, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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The front of the cover is flat, with only holes on the left and right side. There are no indents, no empty pockets, no nothing, other than the one hole on each side.
 
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Old May 2, 2003 | 12:39 AM
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Sound like it should be fine without a backing plate then.
 
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Old May 2, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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I to have torn down a few truck and car 460 and only found alloy front covers, saying that several 370 engine's I have worked on did use a cast iron cover because the front motor mount was incorperated into the cover. Eric
 
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According to the "J" in the casting number D1JE-8059-AA . It is for "industrial"....whatever use that was?

Mac in Maine
 
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were you ever able to find this part (DIJE-8059 AA). I have a bad timing cover from an OMC 460 and I can't find a replacement cover anywhere. All the 460 timing covers do not look like the one I have.
 
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That was the part I had. I ended up buying an aluminum stock cover since I couldnt get the elderbrock water pump to seal correctly. Can't remember the reason for it now, think the gasket wouldnt line up with the cover correctly. Hope that helps. Been a while
James
 
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