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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Yeah, I guess those $6 Billion in loans Ford got don't count.
Do you not understand the difference between taking advantage of a low interest loan designed as a "government incentive" for manufacturers to build fuel efficient cars in the US and a federal intervention in bankruptcy/free market? These loans were made available to all auto manufacturers who weren't bailed out.

The bailout and Ford's "loan" (a couple of Japanese auto manufacturers participated in the same low-interest government loan program, FYI) couldn't be more different.

Uncle Sam/UAW/CAW took majority stakes (i.e. ownership) in GM and a good chunk of Chrysler, not so for Ford. There's a massive difference between the two scenarios, massive. Implying otherwise shows either ignorance to the facts or blatant intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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Hmm.. I don't see any coil springs??? A true air suspension???

 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Bad
Do you not understand the difference between taking advantage of a low interest loan designed as a "government incentive" for manufacturers to build fuel efficient cars in the US and a federal intervention in bankruptcy/free market? These loans were made available to all auto manufacturers who weren't bailed out.

The bailout and Ford's "loan" (a couple of Japanese auto manufacturers participated in the same low-interest government loan program, FYI) couldn't be more different.

Uncle Sam/UAW/CAW took majority stakes (i.e. ownership) in GM and a good chunk of Chrysler, not so for Ford. There's a massive difference between the two scenarios, massive. Implying otherwise shows either ignorance to the facts or blatant intellectual dishonesty.
Very well said. You can't compare the loan Ford took to develop fuel effecient cars to the bailouts. Like you said, they are not even close to the same scenario.
 
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