New Ram - great thread!
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The starter for start-stop technology is not a traditional starter. It will either be a special alternator-starter, or a special direct drive starter in the transmission, possibly integrated with the torque converter.
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The exterior looks a lot the same to me, still like the F150 much more. Too much gimmicky looking plastic chrome bling on the Ram imo. Interior more of the same, reminds me of an ipod (apple) showroom, fake and gimmicky.
The thumbwheel controlled shifter mechanism should probably go the way of early mopar pushbutton selected torqueflights too. yuck.
In Chryslers favor, an associate of mine just got his '12 3500 dually big horn (or whatever) edition. Cummins 24v is very quiet, great tow mule, fast and comfortable. On a 70 mile round trip I took with him, I felt like we were driving a real time video game, not a good thing, again imo.
I'll take a Ford. Same stuff without the feeling its all made of plastic and wires.
The thumbwheel controlled shifter mechanism should probably go the way of early mopar pushbutton selected torqueflights too. yuck.
In Chryslers favor, an associate of mine just got his '12 3500 dually big horn (or whatever) edition. Cummins 24v is very quiet, great tow mule, fast and comfortable. On a 70 mile round trip I took with him, I felt like we were driving a real time video game, not a good thing, again imo.
I'll take a Ford. Same stuff without the feeling its all made of plastic and wires.
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Lead head wants a dodge. It's okay, you can admit it. I had a friend help me pick up a couch because my gas pump was out. The guys loading it just laughed when they looked at the bed size. Needless to say I loaded the same couch in my 92 Ford shortbed and had way more room for error
To their credit, the tie down system they stole from Nissan is pretty cool.
To their credit, the tie down system they stole from Nissan is pretty cool.
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Honey, the trans blew on the Ram...sell the house.
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Lead head wants a dodge. It's okay, you can admit it. I had a friend help me pick up a couch because my gas pump was out. The guys loading it just laughed when they looked at the bed size. Needless to say I loaded the same couch in my 92 Ford shortbed and had way more room for error
To their credit, the tie down system they stole from Nissan is pretty cool.
To their credit, the tie down system they stole from Nissan is pretty cool.
Actually turns out I was wrong. They come with a special starter rated for 300,000 starts, and a 220 amp alternator.
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A typical fleet driven truck is likely going to see a lot of urban use, stop and go driving, 10 or 12 stops per mile not unusual.
Using that scenario and the starter rated at 300,000 cycles yields what, a starter every 30-50 k miles? I'll pass.
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After owning 2 Ram 1500's both Hemi's, and the screwing I took when I traded my 06 Dodge in on a 08 F150 I learned my lesson. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Pretty don't make a dodge any better. The 2 I had 04 and 06 had awful seats, sound echoed through them and there didn't seem to be any sound insulation anywhere. I didn't have the Laramie but an XLT is still 200% quieter.