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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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im new to super dutys. took on a friends cash for cars business with his wife when he passed away. He (i) have an 06 F350 super duty diesel powerstroke. 4 door long bed. bought brand new in 06. He added a Sneeker lift (repo special-wheel lift tow boom) mounted under the truck. I know it weighs 1000lbs. There is also what i think is air ride, i can see bags above the springs and theres a compressor gauge added to the dash. tires LT 275/70 R18.
Heres my problem, i use the truck for construction or whatever is paying. I know its a powerful machine, but I cant figure out how much weight i can put in the bed. Ive gotten all kinds of answers but all different. I assume I have to consider the 1000 lbs of the lift on the frame and suspension & tires. I pains me to make multiple trips hauling when i think i have one of the best trucks out there. also how do i identify the air ride and what are its capabilities. This truck brings home the bacon so I cant risk damaging it. I really appreciate any 2006 advice on taking care of this truck. Thank you Also I know the truck weighs about 9500 lbs, ive had it on the scales at the scrap yard
 

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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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If the truck weighs 9500 lbs just subtract that from the GVWR.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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That leaves me a ton. And helps a ton. Thanks. Any advice on a safe range to keep the air ride gauge at?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Your real limit is going to be your tire ratings. Go back to the scales and weight axles separately. If the F350 dual tires (?) weight 9,000lb, than the tow boom is way more than 1000 lb.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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If you have some pictures of the air ride setup, I should be able to help identify who the manufacturer is.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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the entire truck, single not dually weighs 9500 with me in it
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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i posted pics, i hope, to my photos. let me know if they dont show. thank you for your help i appreciate it
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by justinelam13
the entire truck, single not dually weighs 9500 with me in it
Read the tire rating right away. Unless you have extreme duty tires, you don't have much capacity to play with.
Some basics about tires -they can take even triple overload at rolling speeds and that is probably how singles could survive on tow truck. But when overloaded tire will start rolling at higher speed, it will overheat and rubber will deteriorate at rapid rate.
No pictures. I remember that you need to have some post count to be able to attach pictures. You can link them from other sites still
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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With all that customization, no one here can tell you what the safe load will be. Tires are a concern as noted. But the one thing that is consistent is the axles. They are still the original, and you do NOT want to overload that rear axle. So weigh each axle individually, and that should give you a good idea of the remaining payload. Then make sure the sum of tire ratings at least match the axle rating.

Your F/R axle rating will be on the cert tag, and that is the one thing that has not changed.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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The controller and air bag kit is definitely ours. It looks like and should be, kit 57212. Did you have any questions in particular about the airbags?

They do not add any additional tow rating to your vehicle. They can help transfer some of the weight to the front axle, but you would have to hit the scales to know for sure what amount of weight it will transfer at your psi. They are truly to be used to level the truck with a load. This will help greatly in having enough weight on the front axle for braking and steering. It can also improve ride quality when loaded down.

Feel free to let me know if I can help in any way.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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This is new. How air helper bags can transfer the weight to the other axle?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Those stock tires at full inflation pressure are probably rated at 3650# each. This will carry your full rear axle weight rating. Your truck probably has an 11,500# GVW rating (check the sticker).

These 350's can carry some insane loads. The truck will run at full load without complaint. As long as you are within your rear axle and tire rating, there should be no problem. If you find that more capacity is needed, you might want to remove that add-on to regain the extra 1000# of capacity.

Last week I loaded my F-350 with wet oak firewood logs until it was full - just shy of 2 cords. I figured that the wood ran ~3K or so. I found later that wet oak is heavier than one might imagine. I never noticed the difference. One has to be careful because it is very easy to overload one of these beasts and not notice it.

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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technically speaking as you increase the ride height of the back its going to transfer some amount of weight to the front. especially if the truck is squatting in the rear a lot under a heavy load, it will be a noticeable difference.
 
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
This is new. How air helper bags can transfer the weight to the other axle?
Shifts the center of gravity. Slightly. Or more than slightly if the load happens to be rearward of the axle.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Shifts the center of gravity. Slightly. Or more than slightly if the load happens to be rearward of the axle.
I know the bags will slightly shift the center of gravity UP, but how it will move horizontally?
 
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