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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Chip should have no affect. Trust me on the injectors, I had never worked on a diesel before this site and tackled mine without issues. Hydrolocking is easily avoided. It's up to you though, but we'd be happy to help you out.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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New = all new parts and injector body
Rebuilt= all née parts and injector body machined back to spec
Reman= only bad parts are changed and injector body machined back to spec (some company's just shim)
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 427 fordman
Chip should have no affect. Trust me on the injectors, I had never worked on a diesel before this site and tackled mine without issues. Hydrolocking is easily avoided. It's up to you though, but we'd be happy to help you out.
Well sounds like it should be pretty simple then I have understood from what I have read up to the point of removing the the glow plugs.... after that I'm a little lost.... Visual learner and without seeing it in front of me I have a hard time understanding the process till I get in there and do it. Anyone have a link to a couple of good threads with pics of how to by yourself?

Only reason I am timid of the hydrolock is threw a rod through the pan on my 460 after a deep river crossing.... did not know it was hydrolocked and the high torque starter on there snapped it without a problem. Getting the truck home and fixing it was not cheap especially being back in high school... Since then I have hydro locked 2 vehicle and a jet ski and always keey a plug wrench and fogging oil in the truck box

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New = all new parts and injector body
Rebuilt= all née parts and injector body machined back to spec
Reman= only bad parts are changed and injector body machined back to spec (some company's just shim)

Thank you for the info. Hopefully they will hold out for the better part of the summer.... in the middle of paying for a wedding otherwise I'd give Jim a call and just get it done. Wonder if he would sell six instead of 8 since I just got 2 of them done. Either way I'll be posting a thread up on here in the future. I need the VISA to cool down for a bit.... my lady knows i enjoy my trucks/ bikes and motors but this past month went a little too far

Once again guys I really do appreciate all the help...Hopefully mid summer I can get the intercooler on there and some new injectors. I have always toyed with bumping up to stage 1's but like I said earlier I want this truck to run as long as I'm around and don't want to be rebuilding a motor before 400-500K Pumping more into them than what they were originally designed for makes me feel as if they would wear out quicker.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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I wouldn't worry about putting a little more power to it as far as longevity. As long as a guy doesn't get carried away. My setup is really nice towing (which is all I use it for). I thought I had an ok truck till I did the upgrades now I love it. I drive like an old man so it should last a long time. It's just nice to know the power is there and I use it towing. Talk more to Jim about it when you are ready to do injectors.

Here are some links to look at

TikiWiki : 94 through 97 Injector R&R
How To: 7.3L Powerstroke Injector Removal and Installation
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...r-install.html
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 427 fordman
I wouldn't worry about putting a little more power to it as far as longevity. As long as a guy doesn't get carried away. My setup is really nice towing (which is all I use it for). I thought I had an ok truck till I did the upgrades now I love it. I drive like an old man so it should last a long time. It's just nice to know the power is there and I use it towing. Talk more to Jim about it when you are ready to do injectors.

Here are some links to look at

TikiWiki : 94 through 97 Injector R&R
How To: 7.3L Powerstroke Injector Removal and Installation
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...r-install.html

Thanks once again. I will take a closer look at them and hopefully be confident before pulling it all apart. I guess the only big difference I have between your setup is the IC and stage 1's. I had already planned on doing an IC and am just trying to get the parts together to do it.

Shoot just adding a chip made a big difference can't imagine what bumping up the injectors would do, which also means I need a reburn as well.

Anyways I always do appreciate every ones advice on here and learn more and day in and day out.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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After reading those... man it looks almost as easy as the glow plugs. Do injectors from Jim come with new Orings?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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Yes they do
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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The factory injectors in your truck, assuming it's in the 94.5 to 97 model years, are only 90cc injectors. I think California trucks have 120cc's in them. You could go just a little bigger for about the same money. With a chip, (you've already got one) you won't believe the difference!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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But the Cali are split shots.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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One other quick question...say I did go to a stage 1 injector I'm guessing this will also require a t500? If going to stage 1's is this going to burn up the turbo sooner as well?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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Going to a t500 will let you get the full use of stageIs. You mat be able to get away with the stock HPOP it just depends on the condition of your pump

StageI will not hurt the turbo
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nossliw
One other quick question...say I did go to a stage 1 injector I'm guessing this will also require a t500? If going to stage 1's is this going to burn up the turbo sooner as well?
No. I have a set of 150cc swamps injectors in my 97 with 350,000 miles on the truck. It is my work truck, so the tuning is mild. I still have the factory HPOP. Now if you want to go all out with some tuning, then yes, you may need a bigger HPOP. I have had it throw a HPOP code only a couple times, and that was when I really had to put my foot on it. I've put 100,000 miles on those injectors. Still runs strong, and did not affect my fuel mileage one bit.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nossliw
One other quick question...say I did go to a stage 1 injector I'm guessing this will also require a t500? If going to stage 1's is this going to burn up the turbo sooner as well?
What ford pride said.

Your okay. =)

You'll soon be upgrading your HPOP cause you got stage 1's though.
Cause you'll be hooked.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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If you work it hard you may struggle without a bigger hpop. In my case I couldn't even pull this trailer pictured empty without setting a cel easy, lost power until I shut it off and restarted it, unless I left it in stock mode on the chip. I can't believe my pump was that weak, only 145k on it at the time. May have been somewhat worn, but couldn't have been that bad. Jim will suggest to you to upgrade the hpop if you do stage ones, especially if you work it.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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I tested the system with a vlight and voltmeter, and everything seems to be working just fine. I know the truck has an aftermarket IDM in it... I never brought that up in the past but I wondered if that would cause any issues? Like I said in the previous posts it feels like an injector is not firing till it gets warm and then it runs very well. Still blows pretty white for a while.... I will try to get a video of it on the phone and somehow post it up...might just be over paranoid, but it seems like too much white...



On another note, very good info from you guys. The wheels are turning and I am going to have to lock up the VISA until after the wedding. I have this issue of always ending up going way too far with mods Tell that to the 547 waiting for a V1 blower on the stand right now.... One expensive paper weight!

Been put aside for this truck for now, but from the sounds of it bumping up injector size will probably lead to replacing the hpop anyways. Sure wish I would have put the money from buying the stockers a month ago towards a set of stage 1's and new pump.... Well after every ones input going with a stage ones should not hurt anything if I'm smart about it. I drive 60-65 for fuel mileage am not a guy looking to hot rod the truck out too much However the skinny pedal gets tested time to time

Will going up injector size run any hotter when towing? I found it quite odd that my stock injectors on the stock tune run hotter than on the 80eco tune mode.

I know I need to get my pyro in the header asap and am just going to pick up a second one and put it in and leave the other in the DP. That being said I was surprised how hot my EGT's at the DP pushed over 900degrees momentarily driving unloaded up to Estes park... when throwing it back into a stock tune they did not improve much... I am going to do an IC before injectors for this reason specifically because towing over I70 to salt lake is much steeper and has me a bit worried with a heavy load.

I guess my question is will stage 1's run hotter than stockers? Towing? Or will it be beneficial for towing and run cooler.

Funny how I got to this point and started this thread asking about cold start issues....dammit.....
 
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