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Old Dec 17, 2000 | 11:39 PM
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Did you ever wonder why they make shims for Chevy starters ? If parts are machined out to proper tolerances you wouldn't need a shim would you. You ever listen to a Chevy start ???? Sounds like somebody shaking a coffee can with a half dozen three eight's nuts in it.

I had a 71 Chevy Impala once, the starter kept breaking the mounting bolts off. I stuck almost a thousand bucks into that 350 V8, and I ended up breaking a chunk of the block out where the starter mounts.

My F150 starter doesn't have shims on it I'll bet ya ! The bendix and flywheel engage properly too. And the starter solinoid is mounted up on the fender, don't even have to bend over to change it out.. The starter looks super easy to get to on my 300 six,, haven't needed to get to it yet.

I'll never own another Chevy.


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1984 Ford F150
300 six 3 speed with overdrive
optional dual rusted out fenders
truck's nick name "Old Red"
 
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 07:41 PM
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Good old GM engineering!Dustin
 
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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 10:20 PM
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i hate to burst someones bubble...but it's all in how its done. now don't get me wrong i'm a true ford fan, (i own two...84 f150 4x4 and a 89 ranger 4x4). but as for any vechicle if it's done right it'll work perfectly for a long time. my dad had the same problem with his 87 silverado 4x4. but it turns out that the starter was a fubar...from an aftermarket auto parts store. the starter was rebuilt, but not to factory specs, and when he put a factory oem unit in it works perfectly and you can hardly hear it turn as it starts the motor. well it's just my 2 cents worth of information.

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and yeah i love the silenoid being on the firewall too.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2000 | 01:39 PM
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On the `Rebuilt` ford starters i get they come with a "shim" that is used to position the gear of the starter in the correct place, in regards to the flywheel.
The paper work with the starter says that with crankshaft `thrust bearing` wear, the shim may have to be used.

If you turn in the old starter when you get the next one. You may be out of luck to know if you need it(shim)...


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Old Dec 21, 2000 | 04:16 PM
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>If you turn in the old
>starter when you get the
>next one. You may be
>out of luck to know
>if you need it(shim)...

John,,

when the day comes when my starter is worn out, I better just take it and have it rebuilt at a shop here in town. Then I know I have one that will mesh good with the flywheel. I could probably rebuild it myself depending on what's wrong with it. If all it needs is a bendix, some brass bushings, and a set of brushes, I could do that myself.

Thanks for the info John !!!!


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1984 Ford F150
300 six 3 speed with overdrive
optional dual rusted out fenders
truck's nick name "Old Red"
 
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Old Dec 25, 2000 | 08:51 PM
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at least there's basicly only 2 types of chevy starters and if you can't make them work right your probly to stupid to be working on your own car amyway.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2000 | 08:57 PM
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I worked on a fleet of over 80 vehicles,fords,chevys and cummins diesels,and at 4am in the rain under the truck in a parkinglot the chevy starters are much faster to change,but the fords only have a 12 month lifespan so the have to be changed much more often.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2000 | 06:58 AM
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>at least there's basicly only 2
>types of chevy starters and
>if you can't make them
>work right your probly to
>stupid to be working on
>your own car amyway.

Amyway ????? heeheheheh

I don't think I'm too stupid to work on my own car. I was just unlucky enough to buy a rebuilt starter and there had to be something wrong with it. I checked the clearance between the bendix and the flywheel on that 350 Chevy engine, even used a torque wrench on the two mounting bolts and after a short while, one of the bolts would snap off. It's a long story. I would have fixed the problem, but I was going through a divorce at the time, and I just walked away from everything including that old Chevy.

All I know is the starter in my Ford has been in there for 16 years and it's never been touched.


LeRoy Wolff, original owner of
1984 Ford F150
300 six 3 speed with overdrive
optional dual rusted out fenders
truck's nick name "Old Red"
 
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I don't know about Ch**y starters, but I have been driving Ford's for about 25 years and only once did I have a starter go out. My former truck, an '84 F150 300 I6, now has 176,000 miles on it with the original starter. This truck spent its life outdoors and had many a hard-cranking winter starts.
 
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>I don't know about Ch**y starters,
>but I have been driving
>Ford's for about 25 years
>and only once did I
>have a starter go out.
> My former truck, an
>'84 F150 300 I6, now
>has 176,000 miles on it
>with the original starter.
>This truck spent its life
>outdoors and had many a
>hard-cranking winter starts.

I have a feeling that the starter in my Ford is in good shape yet at 125 thousand miles, because, even in the dead of winter, the crankshaft only needs to turn maybe one revolution, and that 300 six fires off ! The starter just doesn't get much of a work out.

The hardest starting engine I ever had was in my 69 Road Runner convertable with a 383 magnum engine. I had to crank and crank and crank with that thing... but once I got it going, it sure could light up the rear tires !!


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1984 Ford F150
300 six 3 speed with overdrive
optional dual rusted out fenders
truck's nick name "Old Red"
 
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