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Since towing was mentioned, I have to add this. The only two vehicles I can compare the Ecoboost to are the F250 6.4 diesel and a 4.6 V8 Mountaineer with the 3.73 tow package, both 4X4. There is NO comparison to the 4.6 V8 gas engine, the Ecoboost is in a whole other league of better. The heaviest thing I moved with the Ecoboost was about 5,000 but did not go far and didn't set the mileage for it. That Ecoboost did as well as the diesel out on the road as far as performance and overall towing "feel." The Ecoboost did better than the F250 when it came to maneuvering the trailer back into the small space I park it at, absolutely no slipping, spinning or drama. I never drove the older Ecoboosts so I can't comment on them, but my 2012 works great. I did test drive a 5.0. Good engine, nice sound, and crisp throttle response but the Ecoboost had more torque down low and seemed to have a little more power. The Ecoboost I think will do better on gas but the about $1000 more for the engine would pay for a lot of gas for a 5.0. I guess it comes down to what you want to do with it. Hope this helps.
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Well I pulled a four place snowmobile trailer with 4 cats loaded on it at speeds 60 to 65 and got about 8mpg. Dropped into 5th to obtain those numbers. The other guy at work with a 5.0 FX4 pulled a similar setup out to the mountains and got the same mpg but he was doing 80 mph. So not to impressed with the my Ecoboost.
I wish they'd make a tranny that lets you select.
Should not be all that difficult, right? Just a gearing change, like 4HI vs. 4LO. 3.15 gears that you can switch to 4.10 on demand.
Well I pulled a four place snowmobile trailer with 4 cats loaded on it at speeds 60 to 65 and got about 8mpg. Dropped into 5th to obtain those numbers. The other guy at work with a 5.0 FX4 pulled a similar setup out to the mountains and got the same mpg but he was doing 80 mph. So not to impressed with the my Ecoboost.
So if the 5.0 can do everything the 3.5 can with better fuel economy, then what is the advantage of the eco?
I pulled a light trailer yesterday, about 2000 pounds, for 180 miles. This included up and down some mountain roads, grades of 10% or more at times, but I did not go faster than 70 at any time. The Ecoboost averaged 14.4 on the trip. The truck is still under 500 miles and it may do better but even if not, I am happy with it.
Ford really did their homework on the transmission at least for the tow package. It shifts smoothly and does not hunt for a gear even under load. It gets into 6th gear pretty fast and takes advantage of the 3.73 rear. Also you can give the engine a fair amount of gradual throttle without the transmission downshifting to take advantage of the torque and boost without a downshift but if you push the peddle down, it drops into a lower gear predictably. I am certain this was part of the plan to get the good fuel mileage. It is hands down the best automatic transmission I ever drove.
Well I pulled a four place snowmobile trailer with 4 cats loaded on it at speeds 60 to 65 and got about 8mpg. Dropped into 5th to obtain those numbers. The other guy at work with a 5.0 FX4 pulled a similar setup out to the mountains and got the same mpg but he was doing 80 mph. So not to impressed with the my Ecoboost.
Hey panzer. Just curious, is there a reason you chose not to tow in 6th and see how the truck handled it?
I am getting mileage as advertised. I just completed a trip from Vancouver BC to San Diego. In Oregon, where I pretty much drove 65-70 I got 21 mpg. Coming through California, we were hauling butt. 75 to 80 and I ended up getting 18 mpg. There was a strong head wind for a lot of the trip and that drops the mileage by 1 or 2 mpg.
I am very happy with the mileage and have NEVER experienced the low mileage as some people report. In town it is always 16 or a little above.
Towing my 8000# cargo trailer, I see about 11 mpg.
So if the 5.0 can do everything the 3.5 can with better fuel economy, then what is the advantage of the eco?
People seem to forget the design concept behind the Ecoboost. It was never intended to blow away a 5.0 when it came to towing. The whole idea was a motor that was capable of towing with similar economy to the V8s, but that would provide better fuel economy when used as a daily driver. Lots of people who have F150s want to pull a travel trailer/toy hauler on the weekends, but don't want to buy a dedicated tow rig... thus the EB.
People seem to forget the design concept behind the Ecoboost. It was never intended to blow away a 5.0 when it came to towing. The whole idea was a motor that was capable of towing with similar economy to the V8s, but that would provide better fuel economy when used as a daily driver. Lots of people who have F150s want to pull a travel trailer/toy hauler on the weekends, but don't want to buy a dedicated tow rig... thus the EB.
I agree, and the EB does that, at least in most cases.
It even adds a little bit of torque, especially in the low rpm range.
I am happy with my EB so far, more than happy. Knock on wood.
I am getting mileage as advertised. I just completed a trip from Vancouver BC to San Diego. In Oregon, where I pretty much drove 65-70 I got 21 mpg. Coming through California, we were hauling butt. 75 to 80 and I ended up getting 18 mpg. There was a strong head wind for a lot of the trip and that drops the mileage by 1 or 2 mpg.
I am very happy with the mileage and have NEVER experienced the low mileage as some people report. In town it is always 16 or a little above.
Towing my 8000# cargo trailer, I see about 11 mpg.
Skoiv, I believe you get what your truck is claiming as the 3.55 gears in your truck. I have discovered the majority of the ones that are experiencing less fuel mileage are the ones like me that saw 21 mpg on the window sticker but then go with the 3.73 gears. Also, reading the way those EPA fuel mileage are made, they don't go over 60 mph during the highway tests and that is without the A/C on. They do three additional test besides the city and highway tests (w/ ac, high speed - 80mph, and aggressive driving). They use the results to augment the two primary tests (city and highway - again not over 60mph). So if you drive 65-70, I bet you will get great mileage. But once you gov over that, the mileage starts to go down exponentially. Especially for those that have the 3.73 gears.
I go 70 everywhere I go. I stick in the right lane and set the cruise. This is in every vehicle I own and I continually beat the EPA average. That extra 5mph doesn't get you there much faster guys.