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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Thank you!!!!! And yes ctubutis you have more experience( or if some else said that i apoligize for my confusion) i have none, this was my first rebuild. I will not argue that you or anyone is more experienced than I and has or has done this longer than i have been alive, im only 25. And to who said to put the float pin around and not thru the float i screwed that up but thats the way it was when i took it out so thats how i put it back. Thank you all so much i ment no disrespect (ok maybe a lil but i more than regret it now. im trying to be honest). And my wife just told me white spaces means double spacing so i will after this responce. I have to figure out how on her phone. Ctubutis thank you for accepting my apoligy and i apoligize again. I in no way wish to continue offending you but i also wish to go nowhere. It is clear you all have more experince than me and i value your help. I also was not lying i will not get my answers and leave it was never my intent. I would love to share pics and such when i get my truck back to full form but that may take time. Many more have posted since i have started typing this I am sure but i cannot keep up, i am sorry.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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I messed up what I ment to say is..... I will not argue that anyone has more experince than me I have no experience with carbs..... From your posts it sounds like i need to replece the carb, i am not experienced enuf (ignorance on the spelling please forgive) to bore it out and fix it. Please give me opinions on what would be the best carb to use I only drive short distances and use for pulling very heavy loads most of the time. Thank you all
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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akboy - Yes, double-spacing between paragraphs (or lines, if you so choose) is what I'm referring to. This makes things LOTS easier to read.

Probably nobody is going to jump on you for a few grammatical errors, and it is easier to overlook them when the text is spaced nicely and most everything else is well-written.

So, don't feel obligated to apologize for each and every (possibly) misspelled word.

Just keep in mind the quality & quantity of help you'll receive here is directly proportional to
  • the effort you put into writing well, and
  • the attitude you portray.

Many people here have a particular dislike for Text-ese-type of writing, so I don't at all recommend using shorthand, e.g.
  • im for "I'm"
  • iv for "I've"
  • id for "I'd"
  • u for "you"
  • and other such abbreviations, they can really tick people off and get you ignored.

Posting pictures is pretty easy - create yourself an account on a hosting site (e.g. photobucket.com, imageshack.us, etc.) and upload your pictures to there.

Then, use the IMG code they supply to make your pictures show up inline in your text.

We have a testing forum here where you can make test posts to make sure everything is working. Find it HERE.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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One thought: to me "whitespace" doesn't mean double-spaced lines. It means having breaks, or paragraphs, in your typing. Each paragraph is about one topic. Change the topic and you should start a new paragraph. That introduces space, and that space is white.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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akboy - I deleted a post of yours above that was very similar to a subsequent one, just to try and keep things clean(er).

You'll be cool here so long as you play well with others, thanks for the apology and I'm glad we got this worked out.

There are more important things in life than spats on the Internet....
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Thank you i understand "white spaces" more now and i can absolutly do that.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Emotions can be very difficult to convey over a keyboard. Especially when someone comes at it with teeth bared. Glad to see we're all taking a deep breath.

For the record C does a good job of running a tight ship without being a mean mod. It is a pain to type on a phone, even with the mobile version of this site. I can't imagine spacing each line. But when I'm in one of the chat threads posting from my phone it does help to hit enter after every couple sentences. Makes reading a lot easier.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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I posted that other responce by mistake and i agree i was not looking to start spats on the internet they are not important at all and i dont wish to continue them, i value yours and others advice and am not looking for a fight.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Dave thank you i did not even realize the phone had an enter button untill you mentioned it, i have located it and will use it.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Qjet vs. Holley

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AK - First, I accept your apology, although attacking Chris is like attacking me since he was a guest in my home last weekend - as were several other FTE'ers. And, when Bill says "probably many more years than you" I think what he meant is that he worked on carbs more years than you've been alive. I bow to his knowledge. But, I take issue with his evaluation of QJets and Holleys as somehow he's gotten the order reversed.

And, I forgot about the clip. Good point, Bill. The visual check down the bores would be the place to start, and pull the carb after that if you don't see it dripping.
Gary, I sent the condensed version. I had formulated a nice 3 or 4 paragraph reply to the original thread last night and when I hit "Submit Reply" I got the message that "This thread is closed" apparently Chris had closed it while I was typing.

I have a fair degree of respect for the Qjet, for a smaller engine it's a great carb, the problems I have seen are the leaking plugs, sinking floats and improper rebuilds. It's when GM stuck them on 454 trucks and bread truck chassis motorhomes that the 260cfm primaries became an issue, Cadillac 472, and 500ci engines could be a royal PITA to get the idle right, they run on the ragged edge of main fuel feed due to their size.

Ford used Qjets on early 70s 429CJs and in 1974 California 460 Lincolns Ford used Carter Thermoquads. FWIW, I have one of those TQs. What I said about the floats is very true, when I was deciding what kind of warranty I would give on rebuilt carbs, I started tracking return customers, most Qjets would be back around 13 months with a float problem. I kept floats in stock and had my mechanics (we didn't call them technicians then) save extra bowl cover gaskets from rebuild kits. That way we could simply replace a float without having to do a full rebuild.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
Gary, I sent the condensed version. I had formulated a nice 3 or 4 paragraph reply to the original thread last night and when I hit "Submit Reply" I got the message that "This thread is closed" apparently Chris had closed it while I was typing.
Same thing happened to Gary last night, he let me know what he was wanting to do and I finagled it to let him do it. If this happens agin, send me a PM and we'll get your text added, I appreciate the time & effort it takes to compose things like that and I don't like it myself when I lose what I typed.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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Bill - I don't have anywhere near the experience you do. Not even a fraction of it. And, I never had a QJet on anything bigger than a 396 or a 389, so don't know about the big boys. But, at least Buick had an 800 CFM.

And, I learned to fix the drilled passages on the bottom so that wasn't an issue. But, I loved the adjustability and the small primaries gave good part-throttle response. Besides, others swore at them, so I liked them just to be different.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Same thing happened to Gary last night, he let me know what he was wanting to do and I finagled it to let him do it. If this happens again, send me a PM and we'll get your text added, I appreciate the time & effort it takes to compose things like that and I don't like it myself when I lose what I typed.
Chris, by the time I found that, the ****** system deleted everything I had typed in, so I would have had to do it over again. I just stuck the condensed version in.

Gary, my very first 4bbl conversion was on my 1964 Falcon 260 with 3 speed and factory AC. I bought an Offenhauser 360 dual port intake and a new 1966 Buick Riviera Qjet. Neither were real great, the Offenhauser intake was split left and right, rather than 180 degrees and had a lower set of ports that were small fed by the primaries and a larger set above fed by the secondaries. The intake port as a result had a 1/4" high wall right across it.

The 1966 and 67 Qjets had a "poppet" style needle and seat, that GM later released an update to converting it to a normal needle and seat configuration. These carbs also had a dashpot piston for the secondary air valves that was a fixed delay, rather than the vacuum dashpot system the later ones use.

I later replaced the whole thing with a Ford performance (pre-muscle parts) tri-power kit purchased from Beach Ford (it was on display in the parts department). Interesting item, the car was a 1964 Falcon V8, 260ci. built July 27th 1964. Almost every part that interchanged with a Mustang had Mustang C5ZZ prefix PNs. The front suspension was all 64 1/2-65 Mustang.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Bill - I don't have anywhere near the experience you do. Not even a fraction of it. And, I never had a QJet on anything bigger than a 396 or a 389, so don't know about the big boys. But, at least Buick had an 800 CFM.

And, I learned to fix the drilled passages on the bottom so that wasn't an issue. But, I loved the adjustability and the small primaries gave good part-throttle response. Besides, others swore at them, so I liked them just to be different.
So did the Pontiac Ram air IV and later 455SD engines. Easy to identify, only one booster venturii instead of the normal Qjet stack.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
Chris, by the time I found that, the ****** system deleted everything I had typed in...
Hit the BACK arrow when that happens, there's a good chance it'll still be in the browser's cache. Then, copy & paste it in a message to moi, or save it in a text document, or open up a different browser window to use while you save your text.

Yeah, I've also been bitten by not being able to post something I spent a long time composing, I feel for ya....
 
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