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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
When I had the fire prone 2G like yours I had a similar plug, but the white/black wire on the choke went directly to it.

It's hard to make out the Ford engineering number of the "relay" on my little netbook screen. Can you post the number so we can determine the application?
it looks like the first 4 are E4TD then its 90972-DA
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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put the alternator back in place, and wired the choke into the stator. is it normal when the engine is running to get a spark when putting the choke back together the spring inside the choke touches the little lever.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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The single wire choke does ground through the carb.
I've never tried to reinstall the housing with the engine running.

Have you tested for voltage?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fairfield86f150
put the alternator back in place, and wired the choke into the stator. is it normal when the engine is running to get a spark when putting the choke back together the spring inside the choke touches the little lever.
Yes, you'll get a little spark. Not like a welder's arc, but a little bit.

As Jim suggested, check the voltage on that connection. And, check the voltage at the battery to see that the alternator is still working.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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the voltage on the wire going to the choke reads 6.8v DC and then it jumps to 9v AC and then back to DC, and back and forth like that. -- is this right??
now what would the battery read if the alternator is working right?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Battery would be 12.8 w/o the alternator, so anything more means it is working. If it is well charged and you've let it run some it should reach 14.4 volts, DC.

You DVM is in autoranging it sounds like. If you lock it to DC it should stay. But, that 6.8 volts is right where it should be at the choke. You should be golden.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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voltage reads 14.4 while truck is running, and the choke and fast idle cam are working great now.....now i just need to adjust the choke alittle bit because it is coming off alittle too fast.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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It shouldn't be going to any relay. It should be wired direct to the Alternator. That relay may be a resistor that is reducing the voltage on that particular wire. See if you can get a wire run from the stator on the alternator and that should get you where you need to be.
Some Calibrations have a Choke relay. The Computer on computer controlled carbs, or the relay itself controls voltage to the choke.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Some Calibrations have a Choke relay. The Computer on computer controlled carbs, or the relay itself controls voltage to the choke.
Hmmm. While that might explain things, this is a 351W w/a 4180 Holley. While it is possible that carb was swapped onto that engine, I've been assuming that it is a 351W HO, which didn't have a computer. Right?

Fairfield - Tell us about the truck. Engine, year, computer, etc. And, glad the choke is working, but I'd sure like to understand what we saw here 'cause someone else will have a similar problem - some time.
 
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Truck is a 1986 extended cab F150 with a 351w HO. duraspark II in it i believe.
 
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Originally Posted by fairfield86f150
Truck is a 1986 extended cab F150 with a 351w HO. duraspark II in it i believe.
Yes, the HO had DS-II. At least the '85 I had did. And, no computer. So, there was no computer to control the relay - assuming that's what that relay was for.

I can't imagine that being stock given the above. But, regardless I'll bet the way you have it wired will work great. Please let us know what you think after you get it tuned a bit.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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will do, thanks to everyone for the help, this site is awesome, and you guys rock!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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No problem fairfield. We're always glad to help. Let us know if you have any other questions. I know I sure do.
 
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