63 4x4 engine swap?
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63 4x4 engine swap?
ok so whats the easiest best choice to swap into my truck
the 262 is out in bits and its not going back in as i havent time
so its another 6 a v8 or maybe even a diesel???
manual or auto but whats the peoples choice ??
this isnt a long term project just need it back on road asap
thanks
the 262 is out in bits and its not going back in as i havent time
so its another 6 a v8 or maybe even a diesel???
manual or auto but whats the peoples choice ??
this isnt a long term project just need it back on road asap
thanks
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The choices as far as the mounts you have are 223/262 or the Y-block (292) V8. You can buy (or fabricate) mounts to install anything else. The 65 4X4's did use an FE (352, 390, 428) so there are mounts available for those but may be tough to find. I believe the front mount is part of the timing cover and the rears part of the bellhousing but I may be mistaken.
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1965 F100/250 4WD, 1965/66 F350, 1966 F250 4WD 240/300 I-6 & 352 use a similar 3 point engine mounting system as 1961/64 F100/250 2WD/4WD & F350 223/262/292.
Front: L shaped engine mount bracket bolts to timing cover. There are 2 rubber 'donut' shaped insulators, one fits below the crossmember, one above.
Bolt fits thru sleeve from L shaped bracket thru upper insulator, thru crossmember and lower insulator, nut and washer ties the whole enchilada together.
Rear: Bellhousing has two 'ears.' 1 upper rectangular steel/rubber insulator per side is located below the ears, rest on crossmember.
Below crossmember is 1 donut shaped insulator per side. Bolt and sleeve passes thru lower insulator, thru crossmember, thru upper insulator, thru ears. Nuts/washers tie the whole enchilada together.
The L shaped bracket (240/300 I-6 is different than 352) are specific to these trucks only, are very hard to find. The rubber insulators are the same as used on 1961/64's.
Front: L shaped engine mount bracket bolts to timing cover. There are 2 rubber 'donut' shaped insulators, one fits below the crossmember, one above.
Bolt fits thru sleeve from L shaped bracket thru upper insulator, thru crossmember and lower insulator, nut and washer ties the whole enchilada together.
Rear: Bellhousing has two 'ears.' 1 upper rectangular steel/rubber insulator per side is located below the ears, rest on crossmember.
Below crossmember is 1 donut shaped insulator per side. Bolt and sleeve passes thru lower insulator, thru crossmember, thru upper insulator, thru ears. Nuts/washers tie the whole enchilada together.
The L shaped bracket (240/300 I-6 is different than 352) are specific to these trucks only, are very hard to find. The rubber insulators are the same as used on 1961/64's.
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Or,,, you can get these like I am going to get, and put a 351C in my 63 4x4!
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thanks guys for the details but like i said whats the best motor to ,,swap,, in
the 262 is not going back simply a sits in bits and i havent time to do it
so i want a running cut out or similar
actually i do know of a complete 59 with a 352 and 4 speed but i cant get hold of the guy
so ime thinking sbf or later i6 prob NOT 351c due to slightly harder to find s/h performance parts
i could make the mounts and usually would but my welders not here so i may just buy an off the shelf kit is it worth it? and who should i go with
i heard socal speed shop do them? (suprised me as i thought it was a chines chrome and fashion store
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the 262 is not going back simply a sits in bits and i havent time to do it
so i want a running cut out or similar
actually i do know of a complete 59 with a 352 and 4 speed but i cant get hold of the guy
so ime thinking sbf or later i6 prob NOT 351c due to slightly harder to find s/h performance parts
i could make the mounts and usually would but my welders not here so i may just buy an off the shelf kit is it worth it? and who should i go with
i heard socal speed shop do them? (suprised me as i thought it was a chines chrome and fashion store
)
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well if its really an asap type of deal i would try to find another motor like you had (223 should work too) and just bolt it in. Now if you plan on swapping motors in the future than go ahead and find a running engine of what ever flavor you happen to like. Ill throw a vote out for the 300. Should be easy to swap in and you could probably find a complete donor for a couple hundred bucks.
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well the way i see it is if im going to bother doing it i may as well fit something
i want. i cant find a 262 right now so il search out a sbf or i6 300
will the sump drop matter? will an auto be simple enough? or should i search out a truck b/h for my 262 b/h
anybody know a good price junk yard in socal?
i want. i cant find a 262 right now so il search out a sbf or i6 300
will the sump drop matter? will an auto be simple enough? or should i search out a truck b/h for my 262 b/h
anybody know a good price junk yard in socal?
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ok so whats the easiest best choice to swap into my truck
the 262 is out in bits and its not going back in as i havent time
so its another 6 a v8 or maybe even a diesel???
manual or auto but whats the peoples choice ??
this isnt a long term project just need it back on road asap
thanks
the 262 is out in bits and its not going back in as i havent time
so its another 6 a v8 or maybe even a diesel???
manual or auto but whats the peoples choice ??
this isnt a long term project just need it back on road asap
thanks
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No F100/350 came with a 352 prior to 1965, so the 352 engine in that 1959 was swapped in and most likely unless the 352 came from a 1965/66 4WD or F350, none of the mounting parts will be the same as 1961/66.
The 223 I-6 will bolt tight in...in place of the 262, 292 could also be used, but no other engine will be a "bolt in."
Be prepared for major labor intensive modifications, looking for mounting parts that will work, paying mega-bucks for some sort of conversion kit...and cussing up a blue streak in the process.
The 223 I-6 will bolt tight in...in place of the 262, 292 could also be used, but no other engine will be a "bolt in."
Be prepared for major labor intensive modifications, looking for mounting parts that will work, paying mega-bucks for some sort of conversion kit...and cussing up a blue streak in the process.
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No F100/350 came with a 352 prior to 1965, so the 352 engine in that 1959 was swapped in and most likely unless the 352 came from a 1965/66 4WD or F350, none of the mounting parts will be the same as 1961/66.
The 223 I-6 will bolt tight in...in place of the 262, 292 could also be used, but no other engine will be a "bolt in."
Be prepared for major labor intensive modifications, looking for mounting parts that will work, and cussing up a blue streak in the process.
The 223 I-6 will bolt tight in...in place of the 262, 292 could also be used, but no other engine will be a "bolt in."
Be prepared for major labor intensive modifications, looking for mounting parts that will work, and cussing up a blue streak in the process.
thanks for that but it now seems easier to find a later motor and
i was under the impression you can buy off the shelf ,,fit a sbf,, parts?
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Off what shelf? All the parts are obsolete, only the original rubber insulators are repopped. So you'll have to find an aftermarket source that may sell a kit.
FoMoCo never referred to any of their engines as small or big blocks. That's a GM thing.
FoMoCo never referred to any of their engines as small or big blocks. That's a GM thing.
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If you actually use the 4x4, i recommend something larger than the 292. Thats what I have and there is a lot to be desired in the power department. I don't know what will "drop in" so to speak, but it worth doing it right in my opinion.
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here we go!
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but i have several old fords and my eye on another so i want this one driveable asap and probably sold to make space. so would prefer an acceptable swap thats easy that a new owner would be ok with before i dig a hole for myself