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Mar 7, 2012 | 12:00 AM

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ToMang07

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T stat should be fine, just be sure to replace oring between pump and tstat kneck. My new pump from napa didnt have it and the old one leaked.. Pump from ford: $360, NAPA: $165

If you can, return the NAPA one.

You can get a brand new OEM one from Riffraff for $150.

Riffraff Diesel: OEM Powerstroke Water Pump

And it would be good preventative maintenance to install a coolant filter bypass to preserve the pump for as long as possible.

Mar 7, 2012 | 12:04 AM

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DarkStarMedia

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might be a good opportunity to switch to the ih pump with the integrated coolant filter stuff...

richard

Mar 7, 2012 | 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldsmoky92

T stat should be fine, just be sure to replace oring between pump and tstat kneck. My new pump from napa didnt have it and the old one leaked.. Pump from ford: $360, NAPA: $165

Thanks. I did grab the one from Napa. I will have to look if it came with that oring...

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Where is the rest of that pump that goes down the right side? My new pump has a leg to it that that pump doesnt have...

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might be a good oppertunity to switch to the ih pump with the intigrated coolant filter stuff...

richard

Way out of the budget...

Mar 7, 2012 | 09:23 AM

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Thanks. I did grab the one from Napa. I will have to look if it came with that oring...

Where is the rest of that pump that goes down the right side? My new pump has a leg to it that that pump doesnt have...

Way out of the budget...

an extra $150 is out of budget? Ok... I'd think it would be worth it

richard

Mar 7, 2012 | 09:28 AM

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an extra $150 is out of budget? Ok... I'd think it would be worth it

richard

Yes, I'd rather spend 150 vs 300 on a water pump. They both do the same thing.

Mar 7, 2012 | 09:47 AM

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Yes, I'd rather spend 150 vs 300 on a water pump. They both do the same thing.

execpt they don't... The international pump has a place to screw on a filter...

coolant filter kits cost a lot more than $ 150 iirc

richard

Mar 7, 2012 | 09:55 AM

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So how important is coolant filtration? I seem to read alot about it but never have thought about installing a filter.

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesHajek

Thanks guys, hopefully tackle this before this weekend. It is really spitting coolant now. I went and got the pump today so I will go back for the clutch fan removal tool and the coolant tomorrow or Thursday. I will definitely put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator just in case and hopefully will have an extra set of hands to catch the fan if I drop it... lol T-stat was replaced not all that long ago so I think it would be ok to reuse?

James I recomend you make a drawing in a cardboard with the new pump and the holes where the bolts goes, and when you unbolt every one bolt put them in the exact place it goes, because they are of diff. longitud and in that way when you install them you dont have any problem OK?

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Where is the rest of that pump that goes down the right side? My new pump has a leg to it that that pump doesnt have...

there are one piece WP and two pieces WP.

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Mar 7, 2012 | 10:09 AM

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execpt they don't... The international pump has a place to screw on a filter...

coolant filter kits cost a lot more than $ 150 iirc

richard

This statement is untrue. Napa filter head and filter about 65 bucks. Fittings and hoses about 10.

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:14 AM

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execpt they don't... The international pump has a place to screw on a filter...

coolant filter kits cost a lot more than $ 150 iirc

richard

Plus the IH pump requires some modifying to work, and re-routing of the coolant hoses. IE... pain in the **** when you can just put a coolant filter in line some place.

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:22 AM

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So how important is coolant filtration? I seem to read alot about it but never have thought about installing a filter.

Im convinced that it is important the coolant filtration, there are some threads with the topic, I tried to search one but I couldnt find it. Maybe Glenn chime in here later.
And also I think that if you dont use to much your truck is less necessary but maybe Im wrong IDK.

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:31 AM

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Check this links

Coolant Filter
SpringerPop's Coolant Bypass Filter

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:37 AM

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DarkStarMedia

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http://www.dieselsite.com/1994-19977...ionsystem.aspx

ok... maybe the coolant filter kits are not as expensive as I thought...
part of me still prefers the integrated system as International designed it...

Richard

Mar 7, 2012 | 10:47 AM

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ToMang07

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Originally Posted by DarkStarMedia

I have the dieselsite kit.... I am very happy with it.

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Originally Posted by JamesHajek

A couple things about the aftermarket and rebuilt pumps and T-Stats.... many have reported issues with BOTH. Both T-States not operating (opening) correctly, and "new" WP's failing relatively quickly. I have a buddy with less than 20k on his and it's leaking again.

And the Riffraff Pump has the "leg." I can send you a picture if you'd like.... its in the box on the couch right behind me.

And the biggest reason a filter is so important, is it WILL extend the life of your pump. As well as the hassle as replacing the pump. Let alone the dirt and and metal wear from the pump itself, but the silicates in the coolant will call out, and essentially act as dirt when going through your pump, expediting wear. A filter will remove those pieces of silicate and any dirt from the cooling system.