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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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88 awd ?

If you can convert a 4x2 into a 4x4, can u make the 4x4 awd, IF you open 2 t-cases, pull 2 of the same gears from each to make them mess in 1 case to give you 1:1 betwwen both output shafts ?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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High range is 1:1 on a 4wd transfer case. The problem is that all 4 wheels move at slightly different speeds, especially in the corners and a 4wd system is locked 100% front/rear. So it will bind up on hard pavement. An AWD system has some sort of differential that allows the front and rear axle to turn at different speeds.

There were some fords in the 70's that had AWD systems and most people converted them to the standard 4wd setup. It would be interesting to take a modern AWD transfer case out of say a jeep and use that as they have torque biasing which sends power to the wheels that grip.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Isn't/wasn't there an AWD version of the expedition?
The V8 explorers were AWD, maybe this T-case could be used?
 
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Thats right, i've a few mountaineers that are awd, but theyre mod motors ?
 
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Thats right, i've seen a few mountaineers that are awd, but theyre mod motors ?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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The Mountaineers and Explorers were 5.0 at first, then they switched to the modular motors in the later explorers.
Does it matter what motor the t-case sits behind as long as the transmission bolt pattern and output shaft is the same?
 
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I'm using a 351. I think the t-case bolt pattern from awd needs to match a 4x4 OD trans.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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the explorer / mountaineers that had 5.0 were mostly awd. they were 4r70w equiped and use a borg 4404 transfer case with a viscous clutch . as far as front end they use a ifs with cv shafts . i think dana 30 or 40? anyhow, that is the case and trans they use
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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So the 4r will bolt upto 351 w/o problems ?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 88dually
If you can convert a 4x2 into a 4x4, can u make the 4x4 awd, IF you open 2 t-cases, pull 2 of the same gears from each to make them mess in 1 case to give you 1:1 betwwen both output shafts ?
if you are wanting a awd truck then put a older NP203 transfer case in there !
fact was it was the best transfer case for awd !
you would have to keep your front hubs locked but that is the case with any awd !
put a posi in the rear and you would be good to go !

my old truck with the 203 and posi in the rear was the best truck for driving in the snow !

lots of people hate that transfer case , it was solid built !
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Cj, how does this t-case go with what f100 said about the front an rear going at slightly different speeds ?
 
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You wouldn't want a full time 4wd as some older Fords had, and some Plow truck package Chev's.


Those were such gas hoggs, slow, and would slow right down just letting off the gas!
 
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the 203 case has differential built into it kind of like a rear end does !
it acts like a rear end with out posi traction !
NP203 Transfer Case
High Impact - NP203 Transfer Case Data Sheet
 
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
You wouldn't want a full time 4wd as some older Fords had, and some Plow truck package Chev's.


Those were such gas hoggs, slow, and would slow right down just letting off the gas!
maybe there is a reason why he would want or need one !
 
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If it's going to be a full time plow truck....then it's a great idea!
 
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