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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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idle aggrivation!!!

having a little trouble with the idle of my truck it runs fine and it starts fine its just the idle of it.. when the truck is dead cold it idles like it should but as soon as it warms up it runs sorta roughly and idles up and down bout 200 or so rpm up then back down kinda like when the ac or somethin does when it kicks on only it does this with nothing on at all anyone else had this problem icp was cleaned not long ago and re sealed thinking maybe icp but it doesnt have any oil in it im stumped
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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I'm sure you meant clean and resealed the IPR, have you tried unplugging the ICP sensor and seeing if that resolves the issue? I know you said no oil in the connector, but it would help eliminate it.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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yes when i unplugged it the idle doesent change and why would it only do this when warm
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Do you have a way to view ICP and IPR duty cycle? After ICP my thought is leaning towards IPR, usually surging idle or longer starts when hot, lean towards the IPR.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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yea my firend has ae but not exactly sure how to test ipr and icp
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:47 AM
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Subscribing...I had changed out my ipr last year when did the rest of my mods and my truck does the exact same thing.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseecoalroller0
yea my firend has ae but not exactly sure how to test ipr and icp
In the live data tab select IPR duty cycle and psi. Mine does this too but a new ICP, harness, and IPR did not correct it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Use that AE to check the Engine Oil Temp Output to check if the EOT sensor is any good.

Here's a cut and paste of something I just posted earlier today.

A very important sensor is the EOT (Engine Oil Temp).
I has to work properly for the PCM to accurately adjust SOI (Start of Injection) and fueling.

Select Engine Oil Temp Output on AE. Check before you start the engine and after the vehicle has completly cooled down. Compare it to AIT
(Air Inake Temp). The readings should be very close if both sensors are working properly, and should closely equal underhood temp. Go for a test drive. EOT should slowy rise. At full operating temp EOT should be around 200° give or take 5°. These are my temps on a temperate day, not extremely hot or cold and a 195° t-stat.


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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
Use that AE to check the Engine Oil Temp Output to check if the EOT sensor is any good.

Here's a cut and paste of something I just posted earlier today.

A very important sensor is the EOT (Engine Oil Temp).
I has to work properly for the PCM to accurately adjust SOI (Start of Injection) and fueling.

Select Engine Oil Temp Output on AE. Check before you start the engine and after the vehicle has completly cooled down. Compare it to AIT
(Air Inake Temp). The readings should be very close if both sensors are working properly, and should closely equal underhood temp. Go for a test drive. EOT should slowy rise. At full operating temp EOT should be around 200° give or take 5°. These are my temps on a temperate day, not extremely hot or cold and a 195° t-stat.

LINK to my earlier post
That my friend is an excellent point. I was just talking to a couple of diesel mechanics about this on my truck this weekend. Gonna check it out when I get home.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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could that sensor being bad also make my truck high idle in cold weather even after truck has came to operating temps... cause sometimes in cold weather i will sit and let it run a while after driving a good distance on the interstate or washing the truck in the cold with it running and it will start to high idle like its dead cold but i kinda like that lol
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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That my friend is an excellent point. I was just talking to a couple of diesel mechanics about this on my truck this weekend. Gonna check it out when I get home.
Check out that whole post I linked to. Give you some other things to check.

Originally Posted by tennesseecoalroller0
could that sensor being bad also make my truck high idle in cold weather even after truck has came to operating temps... cause sometimes in cold weather i will sit and let it run a while after driving a good distance on the interstate or washing the truck in the cold with it running and it will start to high idle like its dead cold but i kinda like that lol
That is certainly a possibility. If the EOT sensor doesn't accurately read oil temps the PCM is going to do some erractic things. It might even be operating the GPR when it is not needed. Oil temp plays a role in many decisions the PCM makes.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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ok may pick one of those up tomorow any idea what the part number on one of those little buggers would be should i get it from ford or just napa or somethin
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseecoalroller0
ok may pick one of those up tomorow any idea what the part number on one of those little buggers would be should i get it from ford or just napa or somethin
Don't have the part number.

Keep in mind oil wll drain from the reservoir when you remove the sensor.
Either evacuate the reservoir or work damn fast.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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lol yes ill have the ole oil sucker handy to get the oil out with i dont think im fast enough to get it in there without losing a bunch and making a mess what sensor is on the top of the reservoir is that engine oil preasure
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Must be something in the air. Mine just started this Saturday night. While warmed up I'm seeing 2100 psi and up to 44% duty cycle while cranking. Idle straightens itself out but only gives me attitude during cranking and idle when warm.
 
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