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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Thanks! Yeah, that seems about right. Of course, that would imply I trust my torque wrench to that low of a value. Guess this is an excuse to go get a new tool!

So, what actually causes the tip of the glow plug to snap off? Are they THAT brittle? I have no experience with them, but it would seem an inherently flawed design for a serviceable part in such a critical location to be that fragile. I mean, is it 'breath on it wrong and it snaps' fragile, or 'I'm a giant ape who doesn't know how to GENTLY wrench on anything' fragile? Also, I found a couple different anti-seize materials at the parts store. One is good to 1200°F and the other is good to 2000°F. The higher-temp one has copper in it. Is that OK to use, or should I stick with the basic 1200°F stuff?

Getting back to the return line kit....... I've seen where many come with new copper washer for the injector. Is it common to go ahead and pull the injector while doing the return lines, or am I asking for trouble messing with them? Just trying to walk a fine line between 'good preventive maintenance' and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Would the CDR have another name? Can't find it on rockauto.com. Or is this something you have to go back to Ford for?

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Thanks! Yeah, that seems about right. Of course, that would imply I trust my torque wrench to that low of a value. Guess this is an excuse to go get a new tool!

So, what actually causes the tip of the glow plug to snap off? Are they THAT brittle? I have no experience with them, but it would seem an inherently flawed design for a serviceable part in such a critical location to be that fragile. I mean, is it 'breath on it wrong and it snaps' fragile, or 'I'm a giant ape who doesn't know how to GENTLY wrench on anything' fragile? Also, I found a couple different anti-seize materials at the parts store. One is good to 1200°F and the other is good to 2000°F. The higher-temp one has copper in it. Is that OK to use, or should I stick with the basic 1200°F stuff?

Getting back to the return line kit....... I've seen where many come with new copper washer for the injector. Is it common to go ahead and pull the injector while doing the return lines, or am I asking for trouble messing with them? Just trying to walk a fine line between 'good preventive maintenance' and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

Mike
The aftermarket glow plugs are the ones that distort and blow out causing the tips to break. Hopefully you have the Motorcraft/Beru plugs in your truck. Either anti-seaze will work.
You don't need the copper washers to do the return line, they are used when installing new injectors. Unless you are having problems with the injectors I wouldn't mess with them.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 06:00 AM
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Where can i buy a new CDR valve?? - Oilburners.net

Some info on here. You can probably get one from ford or IH dealers. I am going to make a road draft tube that goes into my exhaust (example at the end of the thread above) I'm tired of the messy air intake manifold and leaky cdr valves.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Thanks for the link! It looks like the way to go on the CDR is to order the International version since it's the same thing minus Ford's mark-up. Is there a preferred IH online dealer, perhaps one that sponsors the site? Couldn't find any listed on the main page.

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 02:46 AM
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Stopped by the ford dealership today they call it a PCV valve it was about $60 and the Ford dealership in Gresham Oregon has one. I have the part # I think I left it in the truck I will find it for you tomorow if you need it.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 03:00 AM
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Found it. Cdr / Pcv valve P/N: e3tz-6a665-a . Seems like the holy grail of part #'s couldn't find it on any threads and it took 3 guys at the dealership to figure it out. Here ya go!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Wow! Thanks for all the help! I went through the site's vendors and saw that Tousley Ford is listed, so I'm assuming they're a sponsor of sorts. I gave them the business because they're also a big sponsor of another car forum I used to frequent, The Ford Focus Enthusiast Site :: Focaljet : (Ford Focus site), and have always been great to work with. Price was $44 for the valve and a couple bucks for the gasket/o-ring/grommet.

Thanks again!

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Sweet I think I am going to pick up 3 here in the near future and the kit from mister gasket to weld the road draft tube into the exhaust. DEQ will love me haha, drive in puffing black smoke and have oil dripping out of my exhaust good thing they don't emissions check disels here
 
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It really isn't necessary to use a torque wrench on glow plugs.

Just use a 1/4" ratchet and go a hair past snug.

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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More or less the same as you would a spark plug, right?

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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More or less the same as you would a spark plug, right?

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Exactly.

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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More or less the same as you would a spark plug, right?

Mike
but not even close to the amount of pressure you'd put on a spark plug.
kinda like tightening up transmission pan bolts.odds are you overtightened by leaps and bounds long before you thought snug.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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OK. Hand snug and a quarter turn. Got it. Last thing I want to do is fight these things the next time they need replaced.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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So, peaking under the hood today, it looks as though the soft line going from the driver's side return line(s) to the IP is leaking at the IP. Do you typically repair/replace this line, too, when doing the return line kit? Is this where the whole 'olives' thing comes in?

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