Thermostat housing
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Thermostat housing
I changed my thermostat and radiator hoses about 8 months ago and used a chrome "Mr. Gasket" water neck housing. Its leaking now, but I am going to replace water pump soon anyway, so I am not that upset. However, I am thinking it may be my fault and not the part. I used both the gasket and the rubber o-ring - was that a mistake? A third party who I thought knew told me to use both. Also, I am thinking of getting an aluminum neck from summit:
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
Has anyone here used an aluminum water neck with an O ring? Or should I just stick with the cast iron one with just a gasket?
Thanks.
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
Has anyone here used an aluminum water neck with an O ring? Or should I just stick with the cast iron one with just a gasket?
Thanks.
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The only thermostate housing I've seen from ford is cast iron.... im thinking of this housing:
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
don't mind spending the money if it lasts...
you happen to have part # or link to ford aluminum housing?
Thanks..
Kelly
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
don't mind spending the money if it lasts...
you happen to have part # or link to ford aluminum housing?
Thanks..
Kelly
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The only thermostate housing I've seen from ford is cast iron.... im thinking of this housing:
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
don't mind spending the money if it lasts...
you happen to have part # or link to ford aluminum housing?
Thanks..
Kelly
CVR TSH7R - CVR Thermostat Housings - Overview - SummitRacing.com
don't mind spending the money if it lasts...
you happen to have part # or link to ford aluminum housing?
Thanks..
Kelly
But, if you are bucks-up and want new, Amazon lists this one for $23.96 and free shipping to Prime customers: Four Seasons 84884 Water Outlet It looks to be aluminum and is for a small-block, which is what the one you linked to is for, so I assume that is what you have.
Better yet, O'Reillys lists this one for $11.49: Murray 84884 - Water Outlet | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Oddly enough, the pictures look the same.
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These water inlet housings are a little bit fickle to install. It is easy for the thermostat to fall out of place during the re assembly. This will cause a leak b/c it doesnt allow the seal surfaces to meet properly. Another issue it causes is breaking the inlet itself when you tighten it down.
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These water inlet housings are a little bit fickle to install. It is easy for the thermostat to fall out of place during the re assembly. This will cause a leak b/c it doesnt allow the seal surfaces to meet properly. Another issue it causes is breaking the inlet itself when you tighten it down.
Also, on the stock units at least the bolts vary in length from side-to-side and swapping them will create a leak.
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Originally Posted by bruno2
These water inlet housings are a little bit fickle to install. It is easy for the thermostat to fall out of place during the re assembly. This will cause a leak b/c it doesnt allow the seal surfaces to meet properly. Another issue it causes is breaking the inlet itself when you tighten it down.
The OEM Ford thermostat housing has two sides on the opening where the thermostat goes that has more material to help hold the thermostat in place.
The OEM Ford thermostat will have a special flange on the thermostat itself that will actually lock the OEM thermostat into the OEM housing if you turn it clockwise. This makes it real easy to bolt the thermostat housing as an assembly to the intake manifold without having to worry about the thermostat slipping put of place and causing a leak or a cracked housing.
This is another reason why I usually insist on OEM Ford parts!
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This is yet another area where the aftermarket doesn't get Ford parts right.
The OEM Ford thermostat housing has two sides on the opening where the thermostat goes that has more material to help hold the thermostat in place.
The OEM Ford thermostat will have a special flange on the thermostat itself that will actually lock the OEM thermostat into the OEM housing if you turn it clockwise. This makes it real easy to install the thermostat housing as an assembly to the intake manifold without having to worry about the thermostat slipping put of place and causing a leak or a cracked housing.
This is another reason why I usually insist on OEM Ford parts!
The OEM Ford thermostat housing has two sides on the opening where the thermostat goes that has more material to help hold the thermostat in place.
The OEM Ford thermostat will have a special flange on the thermostat itself that will actually lock the OEM thermostat into the OEM housing if you turn it clockwise. This makes it real easy to install the thermostat housing as an assembly to the intake manifold without having to worry about the thermostat slipping put of place and causing a leak or a cracked housing.
This is another reason why I usually insist on OEM Ford parts!
I know those were Ford housings as they said so. But, I don't know why they were different, although I'm guessing it was because the intake manifolds were aluminum. Yep, they said Ford and had the firing order, but both were aluminum. Chris hadn't even heard of aluminum manifolds until last week, but he did find them in the parts catalog. Anyway, I'm guessing these thermostat housings were different because the manifolds were different, but I don't know that.
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One of things Lariat mentioned was using Ford OEM parts, that would include the thermostat which would have the little ears on it for attaching to the housing.
I had a 351Wheezer in my 1970 Mustang and have vague recollections of this problem (getting the thermostat to stay) but that was 30+ years ago and the memories are a bit hazy at this point.
I'm glad you spoke up and gave your engine specs, that Summit thing says it's for a 351W but you apparently have a 302 EFI.
Know what? There are -0- available for some of the 351Ws (unless maybe the part number has been changed, would need ND for that) but there are some available for the 302 EFI!
But, they're pricey - although no more pricey than those fancy colored aluminum things for $100....
C9OZ-8592-C CONNECTION - WATER OUTLET Fits 1985/89 E-F150/250 & Bronco w/302 EFI; 1988/89 E-F150/350 & Bronco w/351W [Both use the Motorcraft RT1052 thermostat] (this book goes only to 1989, may also fit later years but I can't verify that)
The book doesn't say if they're aluminum or iron or plastic or whatever, only that they're obsolete.
Our sponsor Ford Parts - www.partsguyed.com says they can get this for you (buy from their web site).... MSRP $138.62 Your price $83.17
Some other places:
Klimesh Motor Sales Calmar, IA 52132 Tel. 563-562-3241 has 1
Dennis Carpenter Concord Ford CONCORD, NC 28027 Tel. 704-786-8139 has 11
Dale Carter Ford Inc Eaton, OH Tel. (937) 456-4105 has 1 <-- I don't usually do this, but I suggest you call these people first and see what their price is
I had a 351Wheezer in my 1970 Mustang and have vague recollections of this problem (getting the thermostat to stay) but that was 30+ years ago and the memories are a bit hazy at this point.
I'm glad you spoke up and gave your engine specs, that Summit thing says it's for a 351W but you apparently have a 302 EFI.
Know what? There are -0- available for some of the 351Ws (unless maybe the part number has been changed, would need ND for that) but there are some available for the 302 EFI!
But, they're pricey - although no more pricey than those fancy colored aluminum things for $100....
C9OZ-8592-C CONNECTION - WATER OUTLET Fits 1985/89 E-F150/250 & Bronco w/302 EFI; 1988/89 E-F150/350 & Bronco w/351W [Both use the Motorcraft RT1052 thermostat] (this book goes only to 1989, may also fit later years but I can't verify that)
The book doesn't say if they're aluminum or iron or plastic or whatever, only that they're obsolete.
Our sponsor Ford Parts - www.partsguyed.com says they can get this for you (buy from their web site).... MSRP $138.62 Your price $83.17
Some other places:
Klimesh Motor Sales Calmar, IA 52132 Tel. 563-562-3241 has 1
Dennis Carpenter Concord Ford CONCORD, NC 28027 Tel. 704-786-8139 has 11
Dale Carter Ford Inc Eaton, OH Tel. (937) 456-4105 has 1 <-- I don't usually do this, but I suggest you call these people first and see what their price is
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Something I see done way to often is over tightening and warping the housing ... Especially on the aftermarket chrome shop junk!
Typically, when I got leaker, I flatten/clean it on a surface plate, then spray a thin coat of K&W Copper Coat to both sides of the gasket, not over tighten, leak solved!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
Typically, when I got leaker, I flatten/clean it on a surface plate, then spray a thin coat of K&W Copper Coat to both sides of the gasket, not over tighten, leak solved!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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The I6 300 housing also has slots that allow the thermostat to be twisted into a locked-in position for easy assembly.
When I changed my T-stat I found the Motorcraft gasket was much thicker and obviously higher quality than the no-name brand gasket. The no-name brand was 3x cheaper, but you get what you pay for.
When I changed my T-stat I found the Motorcraft gasket was much thicker and obviously higher quality than the no-name brand gasket. The no-name brand was 3x cheaper, but you get what you pay for.