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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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I plan on doing an engine build as soon as I get a spare engine. I think I have narrowed my injecter size down to the 250/200 I dont tow much and if I do it will only be 6000 lbs on the worse day and only once in a GREAT while does my truck get hooked to a trailer. My truck is mostly a DD and a play toy. I think Im going to go with the H2E turbo or GT42, ARP head studs, FRx, HPx, Beehive valve springs, chromoly push rods, there is more but thats the basics. I have a few questions for you guys to set me straight. As far as injecters go whats the biggest I should run and still be streetable? Waht kind of power will the T500 hold up to? I would like to be in the 600-700 HP levels, obvioulsy I will also be stepping up to a BTS tranny too. IF you guys think I might be over looking something let me know.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHN2001
I plan on doing an engine build as soon as I get a spare engine. I think I have narrowed my injecter size down to the 250/200 I dont tow much and if I do it will only be 6000 lbs on the worse day and only once in a GREAT while does my truck get hooked to a trailer. My truck is mostly a DD and a play toy. I think Im going to go with the H2E turbo or GT42, ARP head studs, FRx, HPx, Beehive valve springs, chromoly push rods, there is more but thats the basics. I have a few questions for you guys to set me straight. As far as injecters go whats the biggest I should run and still be streetable? Waht kind of power will the T500 hold up to? I would like to be in the 600-700 HP levels, obvioulsy I will also be stepping up to a BTS tranny too. IF you guys think I might be over looking something let me know.
your gonna need more fuel than just a stock pump and frx.....get a RR and a fuel lab or airdog or something.....
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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You're going to need more of a lot to get anywhere near 6-700...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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An Airdog was without a doubt on the list, thanks for reminding me

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You're going to need more of a lot to get anywhere near 6-700...
Well.... Help me out to get to my goal....
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHN2001
An Airdog was without a doubt on the list, thanks for reminding me


Well.... Help me out to get to my goal....
with only those 2 turbos to choose from the 42 would be my choice for that goal.....you havent said what size of sticks you want so hpop choices are kinda based off stick size in my opinion.....t500 with a gen 3 or stealth stage 2 billet would probably be my choices.....also i didnt see anything mentioned above about the bottom end build....gonna need billet rods and a girdle with main studs probably coated pistons would help and some machine work to the piston heads themselves....head porting would help and so would some billet intakes......you know i have been eyeballing the empire diesel procharger.....i see that happening in a year or two for me.....you could just buy the block ready to go from WOP......i think its about 15k ready to go minus sticks, turbo and hpop.....any thoughts on a cam?

all the stuff you mentioned in your first post i have on my stage 1 build......i run an h2e though....if that gives you any idea on how much more youll need.....youre getting into a whole other category when you rise above 600 ponies.....
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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600 hp is gonna be pricy.
Will an h2e even get you there.
I'd say compound turbo or the procharger/h2e combo.
I say that cause one big turbo is too much lag for my taste.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by UNTAMND
600 hp is gonna be pricy.
Will an h2e even get you there.
I'd say compound turbo or the procharger/h2e combo.
I say that cause one big turbo is too much lag for my taste.
i dont even think the modded h2e will get there.....close maybe.....

just found a modded h2 will get you to 550 or so.....
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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A modded 71mm H2e can get me in the ball park with big enough injectors something along the lines of 350/200 Hybrids and big oil, along with the supporting mods.
It may not have seemed like I knew what I was asking of you guys buy I found my list of parts that Ive been kicking around for about a year or so now and maybe this will convince you other wise. First off let me say as good as 700 Hp is I kept my parts realistic and streetable, around 550-600 HP. Ill explain where Im at and will have more questions along the way and question me if you think you need to, Im open for suggestions.
ARP Head studs, Valve springs, Chromoly pushrods, H2E or GT4294R, BTS Trans, 250/200 Hybrids opinions please, SPR1 or dual pumps- I havent read much good about the SRP1 any opinions other wise?, Electric fuel system but which one?, Hypermax connecting rods- Forged rods would be a possible weak link. Thats what I could find for now.
Im still open for opinions on everything Ive asked and if Ive over looked something. HPOP, electric Fuel System, IMO I dont think that Ill be making enough power to have to fire ring the heads or run a girdle on the bottom end.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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BUMP..... I expected a lot more help from this.... common guys
 
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Most people looking to run that kinda hp end up swapping in a cummins.
One reason why you're not getting much feedback is because you have a good parts list going.
You have the major parts listed. You just need to figure out oil. Dual pumps or figure out sticks that will work with the t500.
I didn't think the srp1 was even sold anymore. And it's questionable if it was even better then the t500.
You WILL need a girdle. You WILL need to oring the heads. It's all supporting mods that are easier to do now before an issue occurs.
I'd say you're gonna want the stage3 cam or the biggest "street" cam that gearhead can make you.
If you're just gonna buy a fuel system then get an airdog. You'll need some 1/2" fuel line to the front with a reg return system feeding the front of the heads and out the back.

It's definatly a good project. I still say compound setup will give you best of both worlds. Not as much lag but plenty of air when you need it.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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The srp1 has been discontinued and replaced with the srp1.1. It has had all the parts internally replaced. According to Gary 6-700 srp1 were sold and so far 70 or so of the srp1.1 are on vehicles as of now. I did have a bad run with my 2 srp1's but I can't get past what its capabilities are. I mean if it would work successfully like the claims, I'd be all over it. I would wait till some reviews come out about it and give it some time to prove itself.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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The srp1 has been discontinued and replaced with the srp1.1. It has had all the parts internally replaced. According to Gary 6-700 srp1 were sold and so far 70 or so of the srp1.1 are on vehicles as of now. I did have a bad run with my 2 srp1's but I can't get past what its capabilities are. I mean if it would work successfully like the claims, I'd be all over it. I would wait till some reviews come out about it and give it some time to prove itself.
I hear he gave a SRP1.1 to a sled puller running 400/400's and it's holding up as a test mule.

Working fine so far..

To the OP.. I would balance the rotating assembly, cryo the block, billet rods.

I would clean up the head some.

Girdle is a must too.

Then you are gonna need nitrous to get to 6-700. I am doing a cummins convo for this reason.. Ford's heads are terrible.. the CFM's just aren't there for that kinda HP..
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jkidd_39
I hear he gave a SRP1.1 to a sled puller running 400/400's and it's holding up as a test mule.

Working fine so far..

To the OP.. I would balance the rotating assembly, cryo the block, billet rods.

I would clean up the head some.

Girdle is a must too.

Then you are gonna need nitrous to get to 6-700. I am doing a cummins convo for this reason.. Ford's heads are terrible.. the CFM's just aren't there for that kinda HP..
How is your build coming?
 
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How is your build coming?
Slow... Need more moneys. Trying to build a new shop soon so it's at a crawl.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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This is all great info. to know thanks guys these are the answers Ive been after. Bulla your one of the main reasons I said that about the SRP1.... Ill give it time to see what happens with the SRP1.1.
I have kicked around the idea of a cummins swap, there are a lot of variables theree that I dont know about though when it comes to that. I havent look really hard either. Plus if I had my 7.3 laying around I would have to buy a 53-55 f100 to put it in .
I guess well see fo now this is on the back burnner until work picks back up it got really slow the past couple weeks thanks fo all your help guys and Im sure Ill be opening this thread back up later down the road or a new one with pictures of my new engine
 
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