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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Got a graph now I need help

I have a 2003 6.0 excursion Well like the title says I have a power balance graph the issue I'm having is when it's cold or cool outside it likes to buck when in overdrive. But never shows itself when over 50 outside and only does it until it reaches full operating temp. So I put the vcm on it and here is a picture of the graph never going above 2000rpms.


Is there any way this could be a FICM problem? Because it has indicated different injectors each time I hook it up. ANY input would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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You could give Ed a PM or a call and talk to him about your problem he is a FICM wizz. Have you had any recent work done at all? Also do you have FICM volts yet and verified batteries are good?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Yeah according to my scan gauge all ficm volts are good. But the main one drops to 47 and back up to 48 until it warms then stays at 48.5
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Nobody else???? Does this indicate I need number 6 injector??
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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I read that like 6,3 are pretty bad 6 being really bad. 1,4 look to be getting lazy but maybe not dead yet. I doubt your problem has to do with the ficm. But you have a injector or two on the outs. What codes are you having?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Is that cold or hot? get the motor hot and run it again.

Also you could have a bad harness, I had bucking and fixed it by replacing the injector harness.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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I read that like 6,3 are pretty bad 6 being really bad. 1,4 look to be getting lazy but maybe not dead yet. I doubt your problem has to do with the ficm. But you have a injector or two on the outs. What codes are you having?
That's the strange part only code I'm getting is an egr flow code. No other codes at all 1and 4 are brand new injectors number 6 afaik is an original. I guess I should go ahead and replace that one
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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Is that cold or hot? get the motor hot and run it again.

Also you could have a bad harness, I had bucking and fixed it by replacing the injector harness.
I ran the graph after full operating temp and noe of the injectors fell below -25 or so on the graph
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by j4henry
I ran the graph after full operating temp and noe of the injectors fell below -25 or so on the graph
this could be injector stiction that is causing it when cold, try going to 5w 40 full synthetic. but i agree that contribution balance is indicating what unreal is saying so +1 on that, also do you have the latest calibration strategy? that will help with cold starts.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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I believe I was told when I posted picture of latest PCM flash I do have most current

I took for a spin this morning ect and eot were around 55* and the graph never went below -40 but was all of them very sporatic. If this is just stiction should i use this rev x product i read about i tried hot shot secret before and didnt seem to help any
 

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Sounds like sticktion to me, If the injector is bad it will be week hot also.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Your next step is to check the injector harness, pull each plug and reseat making sure you hear the click, I recommend removing the harness and going over it in detail looking for any chafing. I had the same buck and it was the harness.
 
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Originally Posted by KRDiesel
Your next step is to check the injector harness, pull each plug and reseat making sure you hear the click, I recommend removing the harness and going over it in detail looking for any chafing. I had the same buck and it was the harness.
Thanks I'll check those when I pull my intake and hot tank it to remove all carbon built up in there
 
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 01:36 AM
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try this......

See that icon on the right side? Looks like an injector with a # sign next to it. Click on that, put it in reverse with your foot on the brake and watch the graph. What do you see now? Bring RPM up to about 1200 and what do you see? Do this after it sat over night and monitor what injectors start out bad. What ones get better as it warms up and how long does it take to smooth out? If you have any that are real low you will be able to turn them off individually on the top of the screen to see what difference they make. When you turn off the injector compensation(that symbol on the right) each injector number will appear in a box. Click on each box to turn that injector off.

You cant get accurate contribution stats without the compensation turned off. FYI
You can also control RPM with the IDS, but I am not getting into all that.
 
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