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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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I assume oil made it to the bottom of my doors without taking anything apart, the bottom holes where the weatherstripping attaches is all oily, perfect. All i did was take those rubber plugs out and squirted it in with a gatorade bottle.

With the doors open, there was also rubber plugs on the bottom panels, which also got oil.

I think the wheel wells are the hardest, cause their shape makes anything run off of them.
I want to get an air gun that has a liquid pickup, and pressure spray clean the underside with an air / oil mix.
The more i get into this, the more I can't understand why more people don't try oiling their vehicles to keep rust away....

The only downside i see is that dust might stick on surfaces more, but IMHO thats a small price to pay for the rustproofing qualities of oil....
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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In order to keep the wheel wells rust free, you need to CUT OUT the outer wheel well support. There are spot welds that need to be cut out then the panel can be removed.

Once it is out you need to take care of the rust that is there(trust me, no matter how clean you think it is, there is rust). Then after you take care of the rust, you need to paint it(I use POR15). I also tape off the lip where the wheel well support was attached with spots welds,so it stays bare metal(Explained later) and also the spot weld area on the inner wheel well.

You also need to clean and paint the support as well. I take a 1" hole saw and drill 6-7 holes where the support comes to the bed side. See pic below. This allows dirt/salt to get out and YOU to get in there to CLEAN.

(The top panel, you can see the drilled out spot welds. The bottom panel you can see the 1" holes cut in for access)
I do NOT weld these panels back in. I BOND them with panel adhesive. Welding just created rust where the panel is welded and burning off the paint/ protective coating. The adhesive only sticks to Bare metal. This is why I tape off the areas where the welds were(the areas to be bonded)

I clamp the support to the bed side and I use self tapping screws to attach it to the inner wheel well while the adhesive sets up. Once the adhesive is set up I unclamp and remove the self taping screws and fill the screw holes with the adhesive.

Now there is NO BARE METAL. The bedside and support is painted. And where they meet is completely sealed with the adhesive. NOW there are access holes to clean and also inspect the hidden cavity.

All this work takes about a total of 4 hours over a weekend, to allow the paint to dry and the adhesive to setup.

I have been doing this process for over 15 years and have yet to have a bedside rot out. Even in the salt belt and on plow and salt trucks that typically lasted about 3-4 years
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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superduty wheel wheel bedsides are not spotwelded on, they use an open cell foam seam sealer that acts like a sponge and retains moisture, rotting the wheel wells out.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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OK do away with the foam and Bond them in. Even easier
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
superduty wheel wheel bedsides are not spotwelded on, they use an open cell foam seam sealer that acts like a sponge and retains moisture, rotting the wheel wells out.
maybe could it be dissolved out with diesel or solvent?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Subscribing. My wheel wells are in good shape but the bed rails need to have something done.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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subscribing, my bed rotted out last winter, and its doing it agiain this winter im looking for a more long term solution including all other areas, not just the bed.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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well, it finally stopped raining enough to get the bed liner out, and clean up the inside for closer inspection. there are 2 small rot spots, about the size odf a quarter on the driver side and a 50 cent piece on the passenger side behind the wheel wells, and a little rust on the floor.
the holes will be cut out with the plasma cutter and new metal welded in.




plus, the center bed bolt holes are boogered up a bit, i will be fixing them with large body washers.


once the inside of the bed is done, it is getting scuffed real good with a wire wheel on a grinder, and 2 good coats of ospho before priming and a few coats of spray in bed liner.
then the bed is getting flipped over too see the condition of the bottom and the cross beams.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Nice can't wait to see the finished product
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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me neither!! at the rate the weather is going, i figure it will be september before i get the damn thing on!
big problem is this is a freebie at the body shop, so it is being done outside.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Yeah, hope all goes well with it, my bed rotted out last year so I got it fixed and the guy did a crappy job so its happening again =/ he painted the whole truck and its all chipping now so not just the bed...the entire truck needs it lol, I found a good body guy tho that know what he's doing so I hope it all goes good this summer lol, I'm getting the quarters cut out and replaced with panels that have no foam padding in there so it won't rot again.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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years ago i was co owner of the shop, then sold out to my partner.
he is a perfectionist, and i could not take working with him. but he does fantastic work.
took 14 years to restore his 56 T-bird.
he is now on his 9th year doing my 65 falcon.
no plastic, all metal is worked flat, then finished with lead.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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wow, nice cant go wrong with a body guy like that lol i have always wanted to restore a 70 charger i love that car
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Dont waste your time doing any type of finish work on the inside of the bed untill you inspect the underside. Would hate to see you Burn thru your new bed liner welding in new cross members
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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it only needs minor repair to the front cross member, and one small spot about 1 inch wide by 3 inches long on the rear cross member.
i did not have the camera today when we pulled it off the trailer and took a peek at the bottom.
 
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