Grandfatherd?
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Joined: Oct 2003
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From: OKC, Ok
Kyle, vehicles that carry more than 15 passengers come under a different section of the federal motor carrier regulation book. There are some exemptions for some things. At the time I retired, a few years ago, no one in a class 8 vehicle was required to wear a seat belt even if the truck is equipt with them. Untill my Dad bought the '89 White non of our class 8's even had any seat belts.
As far as laws go the seat belt reg is a federal law that the local police have the duty to enforce as they do ALL laws.
I'm getting out of this now.
Tom
As far as laws go the seat belt reg is a federal law that the local police have the duty to enforce as they do ALL laws.
I'm getting out of this now.
Tom
5th Wheeling
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 31
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From: Near Spokane, WA
Go to the source:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/chi...Pages/faq.aspx
You must have mirrors, page 21:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/for...ers_Manual.pdf
Note it also says you have to have seatbelts, making no mention of the "exemption" referenced in the FAQ.
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/chi...Pages/faq.aspx
You must have mirrors, page 21:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/for...ers_Manual.pdf
Note it also says you have to have seatbelts, making no mention of the "exemption" referenced in the FAQ.
Section 169.686, subdivision 2, lists exemptions to required seat belt use (covered in subdivision 1),
Subd. 2. Seat belt exemptions,
This section shall not apply to:
(1) a person driving a passenger vehicle in reverse;
(2) a person riding in a vehicle in which all the seating positions equipped with safety belts are occupied by other persons in safety belts;
(3) a person who is in possession of a written certificate from a licensed physician verifying that because of medical unfitness or physical disability the person is unable to wear a seat belt;
(4) a person who is actually engaged in work that requires the person to alight from and reenter a motor vehicle at frequent intervals and who, while engaged in that work, does not drive or travel in that vehicle at a speed exceeding 25 miles per hour;
(5) a rural mail carrier of the United States Postal Service or a newspaper delivery person while in the performance of duties;
(6) a person driving or riding in a passenger vehicle manufactured before January 1, 1965; and
(7) a person driving or riding in a pickup truck while engaged in normal farming work or activity.
This section shall not apply to:
(1) a person driving a passenger vehicle in reverse;
(2) a person riding in a vehicle in which all the seating positions equipped with safety belts are occupied by other persons in safety belts;
(3) a person who is in possession of a written certificate from a licensed physician verifying that because of medical unfitness or physical disability the person is unable to wear a seat belt;
(4) a person who is actually engaged in work that requires the person to alight from and reenter a motor vehicle at frequent intervals and who, while engaged in that work, does not drive or travel in that vehicle at a speed exceeding 25 miles per hour;
(5) a rural mail carrier of the United States Postal Service or a newspaper delivery person while in the performance of duties;
(6) a person driving or riding in a passenger vehicle manufactured before January 1, 1965; and
(7) a person driving or riding in a pickup truck while engaged in normal farming work or activity.
Regarding mirrors, section 169.670 covers that as well,
169.70 REAR VIEW MIRROR.
Every motor vehicle which is so constructed, loaded or connected with another vehicle as to obstruct the driver's view to the rear thereof from the driver's position shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle.
Every motor vehicle which is so constructed, loaded or connected with another vehicle as to obstruct the driver's view to the rear thereof from the driver's position shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle.
The MN driver's manual is not a source for MN law as clearly stated at the bottom of the Table of Contents page,
About This Manual:
This manual concerns Minnesota laws and requirements. For complete standards, consult Minnesota state statutes and rules. This document is not a proper legal authority to cite in court.
This manual concerns Minnesota laws and requirements. For complete standards, consult Minnesota state statutes and rules. This document is not a proper legal authority to cite in court.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,109
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From: Thornton, Colorado
Stock Car Nut, The Federal Government cannot enforce laws concerning traffic, and therefore when they pass a law the states just face penalties for not enforcing what the feds want. IE There is a Federal Law that Mandates states pass a Motorcycle helmet law, and it lists the penalties for states not passing a law to conform. Colorado has steadfastly refused to pass a universal helmet law, and we have paid the price in Federal Highway funding. Finally we did pass a Helmet law for those under the age of 18, and that got us some funding.
When it comes to Seat belts the Feds passed a law in 66 to take effect in 67, but many states did not immediately conform. Colorado didn't until 68. As I stated before I asked a cop about this, so I know it is accurate.
When it comes to Seat belts the Feds passed a law in 66 to take effect in 67, but many states did not immediately conform. Colorado didn't until 68. As I stated before I asked a cop about this, so I know it is accurate.
Elder User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 957
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From: Valley Center, CA
Man, what a waste of freakin' time this argument is. Anyone who drives a vehicle on today's roads without
seatbelts is not very bright. Who gives a rats a$$ what year it went into effect...put them in and just drive
the dam thing.
This is getting just like youtube here...you post something and then it turns into a bitching match of who
knows more than the other guy.
Wah freakin' wah.
seatbelts is not very bright. Who gives a rats a$$ what year it went into effect...put them in and just drive
the dam thing.
This is getting just like youtube here...you post something and then it turns into a bitching match of who
knows more than the other guy.
Wah freakin' wah.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,651
Likes: 60
From: Hemet ca.
Man, what a waste of freakin' time this argument is. Anyone who drives a vehicle on today's roads without
seatbelts is not very bright. Who gives a rats a$$ what year it went into effect...put them in and just drive
the dam thing.
This is getting just like youtube here...you post something and then it turns into a bitching match of who
knows more than the other guy.
Wah freakin' wah.
seatbelts is not very bright. Who gives a rats a$$ what year it went into effect...put them in and just drive
the dam thing.
This is getting just like youtube here...you post something and then it turns into a bitching match of who
knows more than the other guy.
Wah freakin' wah.
Whatup J
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Elder User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 957
Likes: 3
From: Valley Center, CA
I've got no problem with the posters original question...it's valid...I just get tired of people taking it off
on a tangent flexing there little muscles trying to prove how much they know and being rude in the
process.
J
on a tangent flexing there little muscles trying to prove how much they know and being rude in the
process.
J
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