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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Shorty Header Question

So my truck is an 89 F250 4x4 351w.
I got a set of stainless steel BBK shorty headers from my uncle, but they came off an 89 Mustang GT with a 302 in it.
My question here, will these headers mate up to my motor, at a glance it appears to be aiming toward the cab too far to mate up to any kind of exhaust. I also can't tell if they will clear the frame rails.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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They will bolt right up to the engine, but will NOT work at all with the 351W exhaust. I tried doing this exact thing on my 89 351 with a set of 302 headers. Everythings off, you would need a custom y pipe made, and even then 302 headers generally use smaller pipes and flanges than 351 headers. I wouldnt even bother w/ it.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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I've heard they won't work. I've questioned this myself and was told by friend that they are aimed outward too much and will run into the frame(passenger side is worse I think).

Dumb thing, Summit Racing sells Motorsport stainless mustang headers for $150. Any of the truck headers are $400+. Go figure.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Alright, thank you guys. I didn't think theyd work, but I should be able to get 100 bucks for them easily. I've got brand new gaskets with em. Ill put that money towards a different set of headers that belong on the truck. Any recommendations on a cheaper set of headers? Preferably long tube.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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As far as long tubes go, i am very happy with Hooker regular Competition headers. I have those on my 89.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-6912HKR/

But if youd like to stick with shortys, I would recommend the "summit" brand shorty headers. Open the summit box, and sitting inside is a Pacesetter box, with Pacesetter headers, lol. Those are what are on my 95's 351
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9036/
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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did the "summit" shortys make a big difference over stock?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Lol kinda hard to tell. The truck came with a 302, and I swapped over to a 351. Put the shortys on when i did the swap. Ive also got a full aftermarket exhaust, 3" Off road y pipe, no cat, Cherry bomb pro muffler, 2.5" duals out back
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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There were some summit brand full lenght ones at $139... I'm unable to find them anymore...
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Blue Rebel - Yeah I guess that makes it hard to tell, but thank you anyway. I plan to put duals on it out before the rear tires. How do you like the cherry bomb pro? I was looking at the cherry bomb extremes, and another actual header muffler, but I can't remember the name of it now.

Encho - I found some summit full length ones but they are $129 now!
 

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I am very happy w the pro muffler, very quiet in the cab, but great sound at idle and when stompin on it.

I also have true duals and 2 cherry bomb extremes on my 89, and i absolutely LOVE the way it sounds. Take it up to about 4k, drop the clutch and shift, I LOVE the way these mufflers sound shifting through the gears. Only downfall is theyre a little loud for a DD, might **** off the cops driving through town
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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The cops in this town aren't strict on exhaust noise. There has to be at least 20 trucks that drive around with straight piped exhaust. And the only person that I know that got pulled over for loud exhaust, they let go because he did have a muffler. I think he had an old glasspack that wasn't making a difference anymore though.
I have a flowmaster 50 series on it right now. It sounds like a 302 mustang as it is. I want something that has a little more crack to it. So i might go the Extreme route here.
This is a link to the set I found, I guess it doesn't say it will specifically work on a truck, maybe you guys will know.
Summit Racing SUM-G9031 - Summit Racing® Headers - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Heres the link to applications for those headers, looks like they fit the cars, fairlines and falcons:

Summit Racing SUM-G9031 - Summit Racing® Headers - Application - SummitRacing.com

Dunno if youd be interested, but ive got a spare set of Dynomax headers id be willing to sell ya cheap. And if you live anywhere close to madison we could even skip shipping them
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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I'm about an hour and a half away from Madison so it wouldn't make any sense to ship them. What are the specifics on the headers? Short tube, long tube, what material are they?
 
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They are long tube, plain steel. Nothing special, they were on the engine I got for my 351 swap, and I wanted shorties. I got the engine from my buddy, I know when he bought them and put them on.
 
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Oh alright. I'm sure we could come to a deal on it. I live in Princeton, if you know where that is.
 
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