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Build up a 351M
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Build up a 400
18
25.35%
Build up a 460
43
60.56%
Other: Find something totaly different!
9
12.68%
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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460!

Build that bitch up!

I know I'm going to build mine up. It's got power with just a small cam, flat tops and that's it. I can't even floor it due to my steering because it is so bad ***.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Just a thought, check out the weight penalty of the 460 vs 351m/400. I think it is something like 150lbs more. This may be something to think about when it comes time for selecting suspension components. Also keep in mind you will need to change your motor mounts since they are not the same as the 335 series. It is well documented on this site and there are several vendors selling what you need but just be sure to add that into your cost equation. I'm not at all saying don't go with the 460, just saying keep the other considerations in mind. Then, more power to ya!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck0
Just a thought, check out the weight penalty of the 460 vs 351m/400. I think it is something like 150lbs more. This may be something to think about when it comes time for selecting suspension components. Also keep in mind you will need to change your motor mounts since they are not the same as the 335 series. It is well documented on this site and there are several vendors selling what you need but just be sure to add that into your cost equation. I'm not at all saying don't go with the 460, just saying keep the other considerations in mind. Then, more power to ya!
All good info!!!!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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The power of the 460 will make up the weight gain..
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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I would run a 460. Had one, wasn't too fond of it in stock form. But if you can locate 429 cj heads and flat tops and a nice cam it will be a nice power house that will make up for the added weight it gives you. If your worried about mpg's then add a gear set to your order sheet. I got between 8-12 mpg with 3.55 gears in my super cab long bed and a 600 eddy carb.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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Dollar for dollar, a 460 will give ya the best bang for the buck.

Go to Spike TV's Powerblock site and look for Horsepower's build-up of a 460... IIRC, they squeezed out 492 HP for something like $2200.

Some say "FE" doesn't stand for Ford-Edsel but rather, "Freaking Expensive".
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Well bdawg you know where my heart and soul lies in the diesel power band so I say Fummins all the way.

I could be persuaded for more information on reducing the black smoke and smell most people hate too...
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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I voted for the 400, because that's what I'm doing. I also like the idea of being a little different. Everybody and their grandma has 460s and small blocks. If torque is an issue, the 400 does have a longer stroke in stock form at least. (I'll admit, not sure if that means more torque though)
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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I have been building 400 since 1978 and have had some realy strong ones. I like them because so many people hat them!!!!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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I'm back again for a shot I think that most people don't know it but the 400 is just a tall clevland same parts. If you want to have fun look to the aussys. they make strait bolt on heads with 2bl.400 valves and a smaller chamber than the old quench clev. If you build one most people will freak out!!! Have fun
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Be different!!!!

I'm back again for a shot I think that most people don't know it but the 400 is just a tall clevland same parts. If you want to have fun look to the aussys. they make strait bolt on heads with 2bl.400 valves and a smaller chamber than the old quench clev. If you build one most people will freak out!!! Have fun
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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I'm runnin' a 512 in my mud truck right now and I'm in the process of building a 598. The 472 I'm putting together is going in my '70 Torino. No replacement for displacement.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Why did you get told that the block is junk because it's already .040 over? I had my 351 bored .060 over and stroked to a 400 and no issues so far. Can you take yours .060 over?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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I have never had the wall thickness checked and I realize they all vary and that thickness will ultimatley be the final factor, but I had read several articles, (Hot Rod mag and others that were doing 400 builds) saying that .040 was the max for these blocks.

Thats the only reason.....educate me!
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Cummins, why not?

That's what I would (and hopefully will) do.
 
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