2005 F-350 superduty 6.0 powerstroke

What is the black box on the driver side fender inside the engine with the fuses and relays in it?

 

I think you answered your own Question here


Whats the matter truck wont engage the starter??

 

I don't know. It seems (and I believe it isn't) getting gas. I was thinking fuel level sending unit.

 

So the starter turns the MOter Over right

Gona need more Info to help like year last service have you changed fuel filters any gauges

The more info you give the Better your Odds at getting a Reply with a fix

 

Opps my bad you had the Year 05

so with that said I am assuming you have a HPO problem

do you have a way to monitor ICP and IPR%

 

Thank you and I apologize for being a bit of a dope. The fuel filters do need to be changed, and I noticed that my water in fuel light hasn't been on in quite a while. So I am wondering if possible water translates into algae, now that you mention fuel filters.

I am also wondering if I have a possible egr cooler issue. Because of something I read on here. What would be the symptoms if one did have that?

HPO is that the high pressure oil ...pump? If so I had no oil pressure issues on the factory guage.

I do not have gauges other than the factory ones, but would love to know what guages are reccomended, what brand, etc.

I apologize again, I am no mechanic, but am intelligent, analytical and have common sense. That said, once pointed in the right direction, I am usually capable. I had a ficm issue year and a half ago, so I took it out, brought it to Botney Bay computers, they opened it, resoldered the points, (with the info from this site, i gave them) I picked it up two days and 85 dollers later, put it in the truck, and it fired right up. So I will put a meter on that and double check its working.

I do have some sort of electrical issue though, on occasion the power windows, map lights (not dome), and radio go out and come back on any lenth of time later. Which is why I asked about the box. Also recently my rear back up sensors stopped working. And it threw a engine light, then it went out on its own, but i had time to put a hand held odb on it and the code was for fuel level sending unit circuit.

 

I have heard of that before with the algae not to common i dont think

Does the truck not get driven much???


Egr cooler problems would consist of white smoke,using coolant,even coolant puke,and hydrock
A bad EGR Valve would cause it to run ruff Black smoke And maybe in an extreme case it wouldnt run not 100% shure on the last one but stuff like that



HPO= High Pressure Oil

I mentioned HPO Cuz you had an 05 and they have a few HPO problems with some parts in the system.
The HPO Pumps on an 05+ are good ones so that said the HPO Pump is probably not your issue here



As far as Gauges I would suggest a ScanGaugeII it just plugs into the OBDII port and you can program a bunck of stuff for a 6.0 in it.
Heres some of the Gauges you will get with it
EOT,ECT,VOLT,ICP,IPR%,TFT,VGT,FICM,MAP,BARO, and alot more those are just some of the important ones

I have one and its paid for itself EASY in the couple things I caught before they broke there 160.00 from Autozone or from here www.scangauge.com check it out It will help narrow stuff Down it monitors alot of stuff you need to check

another option for diagnostic stuff would be an Auto Enginuty with the Ford Bundle around 360.00 from Riff Raff this things is the Catz AZZ from what I hear you can controll things to do specific tests to diagnos

depends what you want and your budget SGII is great for a Gauge you leave in the truck




That box is for electrical stuff in the engine its Fuses and relays. I dont think theres anything in it for the electrical problems that you mention here radio,power window ect......


I dont think fuel leval circut would cause any drivability issues..



So with all that said does the truck even RUN at all or is it NO START?????????

 

It is a daily driver, but it not a hard working work truck, light work occasionally

 

The truck is a no start still.
Gonna check the ficm I guess. If my fuel level sending unit shxx the bed, would that cause a no start?

 

No it wouldn't.

I saw your other thread and something came to mind. I had heard or read that when the low fuel level comes on it will cause the truck to defuel but I don't have any actual documentation or proof of that. Regardless, I've never seen or heard or that a fuel level sending unit fault will cause a no start. With all your other electrical issues I'm thinking harness somewhere. Have you checked for rodent damage?

Also, just because you have oil pressure indicated on the dash "gauge" doesn't mean you have high pressure oil pressure to fire the injectors. Two different oil pumps although the high pressure pump is dependant on the low pressure pump to get oil.

 

As Benny asked: The motor does turn-over?

Do you have a way to measure the ICP sensor pressure (injection control pressure)? This is the pressure of your high pressure oil.

The comments about water-in-fuel have me wondrering how often the water drain plug was removed. If you don't drain the water out, you increase the chances of low fuel pressure and pushing water through the filters. Both of these kill injectors.

The type of code reader you have is important. Some readers do not see all of the Ford specific codes.

Have you made sure the batteries and alternator are strong and working properly?

A ScangaugeII is highly recommended. It takes a little time in set-up, but it can give you a ton of information (including FICM voltages).

Your oil presure gauge is just an on-off indicator with a dial. It tells you if you have over 7 psig (IIRC) pressure on the low pressure side. It will not help you when troubleshooting a high pressure side issue. A scangauge will help you there.

How often do you change fuel filters?

How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

What filters do you use?

As Tim said, a "low fuel level defuel" came out in one of the calibration updates. I am not aware of it being a possible issue with a no-start either.

 

I change the oil every 10k, motorcraft diesel 15/40.
fuel every fall, the ones i pulled yesterday were darkish
I will go get a scanguage ll, i may have some set up questions.

 

Any Particular brand better to have?

 

Use only OEM filters on the 6.0. It doesn't like a/m's. Did you check the fuel cutoff switch behind the passenger side kick panel?

 

Yes, i did check the shut off switch and the fuses