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Cargo Master
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Brakes
So I am just starting to hear the squealers on my front brakes...time to start pricing brakes.
I've heard a lot about EBC YellowStuff pads. I priced out EBC rotors and was given $681 for front rotors and labor (excluding pads) and $683 for rear rotors and labor (no pads). They excluded pads since they were special order (PepBoys).
I'm not entirely sold on slotted/drilled rotors. I've only had one real "glass over" with my brakes and that was a panic stop on the freeway, so I'm not sold that I need those. I do roll on response calls, but we don't roll code, so I don't think I need uber braking, just pads for a heavy SUV that tows between 7k and 10k occasionally.
So...a few questions:
1) Do you have to use EBC pads on EBC rotors? Anyone using EBC YellowStuff pads on OEM rotors?
2) If my rotors can be turned (I think they can - just checked them out when doing the V/Modded B swap and they looked pretty good)...can I use EBC's on freshly turned rotors?
3) What other brakes do you guys recommend? This is the first brake job on my Excursion, and my Expedition was fine using Pep Boys platinum pads...but that was a lot lighter.
Thoughts?
I've heard a lot about EBC YellowStuff pads. I priced out EBC rotors and was given $681 for front rotors and labor (excluding pads) and $683 for rear rotors and labor (no pads). They excluded pads since they were special order (PepBoys).
I'm not entirely sold on slotted/drilled rotors. I've only had one real "glass over" with my brakes and that was a panic stop on the freeway, so I'm not sold that I need those. I do roll on response calls, but we don't roll code, so I don't think I need uber braking, just pads for a heavy SUV that tows between 7k and 10k occasionally.
So...a few questions:
1) Do you have to use EBC pads on EBC rotors? Anyone using EBC YellowStuff pads on OEM rotors?
2) If my rotors can be turned (I think they can - just checked them out when doing the V/Modded B swap and they looked pretty good)...can I use EBC's on freshly turned rotors?
3) What other brakes do you guys recommend? This is the first brake job on my Excursion, and my Expedition was fine using Pep Boys platinum pads...but that was a lot lighter.
Thoughts?
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1) Do you have to use EBC pads on EBC rotors? Nope.
2) If my rotors can be turned (I think they can - just checked them out when doing the V/Modded B swap and they looked pretty good)...can I use EBC's on freshly turned rotors? Yes.
3) What other brakes do you guys recommend? Hawk LTS pads and a quality rotor, if needed.
2) If my rotors can be turned (I think they can - just checked them out when doing the V/Modded B swap and they looked pretty good)...can I use EBC's on freshly turned rotors? Yes.
3) What other brakes do you guys recommend? Hawk LTS pads and a quality rotor, if needed.
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Cargo Master
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Not this time - since the rotors will most likely need turned, figured I'd let them do all the work. If they need replaced, I'll do them myself...but I don't know how the prior owner treated the brakes.
Do you use the Hawk pads? Thoughts on how they run while you tow?
Do you use the Hawk pads? Thoughts on how they run while you tow?
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$300 ebay baby .. but we already have been down this road b4 lolol [FRONT + REAR KIT] 4 DRILLED SLOTTED BRAKE ROTORS AND 8 CERAMIC PADS 4WD 4X4 | eBay
im still running mine with no problems what so ever
im still running mine with no problems what so ever
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Not this time - since the rotors will most likely need turned, figured I'd let them do all the work. If they need replaced, I'll do them myself...but I don't know how the prior owner treated the brakes.
Do you use the Hawk pads? Thoughts on how they run while you tow?
Do you use the Hawk pads? Thoughts on how they run while you tow?
As for the Hawk pads, once, on a two lane freeway, while coming up on a semi tractor-trailer rig very fast (I was travelling at 70 plus, he was behind a very slow moving vehicle, going 50 maybe), the rig changed lanes so fast, it was like an emergency lane change. He cut me off while we were crossing a bridge with zero shoulder to escape to, so I had no other options except to hope the brakes would stop me in time. I had both feet on the brake pedal with my whole weight standing on it. I put the Excursion so far on it's nose I thought for sure I was gonna scrape the bumper.
I couldn't believe how well the brakes responded.
I'm also running the cryo treated Powerslot rotors with the Hawk LTS pads.
As for towing, there is zero fade towing my 10k lb travel-trailer.
I've been using Hawk pads for years, but have always wanted to try the EBC pads.
Stewart
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I have always wanted to try Carbotech pads. I called them once to get some for the Ex but the pads had to be made for the Excursion application. They only had the rear pads in stock. If I remember correctly, I even spoke with one of the owners so customer service was awesome. Might want to give them a call and see what they say. (Carbotech Performance Brakes)
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I use EBC's on the cheapest rotors on the planet and they work better for me than the powerslot hawk combo did. Love them.
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I have EBC Yellow Stuff but use the stock rotors and they seem to work well together. I did have my rotors turned when I installed the pads. That was about 500 miles ago.
I had a similar experience to Stewart the day AFTER I did the brakes. I was towing the TT down to get it inspected and was just pulling onto the Freeway behind a Van (running about 50 MPH). Some guy lost control of his Harley (I ride one as well) doing a quick lane change in front of the Van.
The Van slammed on his brakes, I slammed on mine (remembering the trailer was behind me!) and stopped about 12 inches from his rear bumper. No one got hurt even though the Biker ended up in the bushed on the median.
Good Brakes Are A Must!!!!
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I had a similar experience to Stewart the day AFTER I did the brakes. I was towing the TT down to get it inspected and was just pulling onto the Freeway behind a Van (running about 50 MPH). Some guy lost control of his Harley (I ride one as well) doing a quick lane change in front of the Van.
The Van slammed on his brakes, I slammed on mine (remembering the trailer was behind me!) and stopped about 12 inches from his rear bumper. No one got hurt even though the Biker ended up in the bushed on the median.
Good Brakes Are A Must!!!!
D
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The Hawk LTS pads are working great for me as well. I would replace the rotors vs. having them turned. I used Napa Ultra Premiums in the front and Premiums in the rear and have had no issues in 2 years.
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IMHO, hawk lts pads and powerslot cryo treat rotors. I've used the cryo treated rotors on my car for years and they are worth the price. You really should do your own brakes (easy enough) and remember to heat cycle them (boring, but very important). I'm sure EBC yellowstuff are worthy pads but i have no personal experience with ebc products.
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I've had standard nothing special Bendix rotors on the front of my Ex for about 4 years now BUT I put on Hawk LTS pads...all told pads and rotors (I did the labor)...I've got $155 in the front axle.
I'll be doing the rear pads this spring...I'm not going crazy with rear pads...probably Auto Zone LT Golds or equivalent...
$1400 seems nuts to me...sorry...but I'm cheap...!!!
Even though I don't drive a ton of miles...I've been very happy with the Bendix rotors and Hawk LTS combo...and for $155...I'm even happier!
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I have the Yellow stuff pads on stock rotors and love them. Dont know if the pads I had were stock or ?, but I imediately noticed a huge improvement. Cost me about $140 total. If you want to do them yourself, take the rotors to a machine shop to have them turned, most Napa or similar stores can also do it.
Had to do my dad's out of state, Napa charged about $40 per axle.
Had to do my dad's out of state, Napa charged about $40 per axle.
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All you people that like your brakes after installing Hawk LTS pads should switch up to the Hawk SuperDuty pads next go-round and then you'll REALLY like your brakes!
(This is an eight thousand pound Goliath even without towing something.)
(This is an eight thousand pound Goliath even without towing something.)
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