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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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Question injector knock?

So I picked up an 88 idi with 200,000 miles it has a new injector pump and injectors on it it is very loud compared to my other two trucks, is that injector knock it almost sounds like a powerstroke it has a distinctive "clack clack clack" sound instead of the smothed out sound I am used to hearing from an IDI engine. Any ideas? And what can I do to quiet it down?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Injection pump too far advanced will make the powerstroke rattle. Lines on the pump and housing are not actual timing marks. They are a general if you line these up you should be close enough to start kind of marks.

Rebuilt pumps can make it more difficult to time depending on how the internals were set up. One pump might need timing retarded, another may need advanced a bunch. No hard set rules on the marks alone.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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thats what im thinking too mistaken.i think he's found a truck properly timed and not used to the sound.
hop in it and go for a ride idi guy.odds are besides the extra rattle compared to your other two,she'll have a bit more spunk to her.

an injector knock won't be mistaken for diesel rattle.it'll sound like a rod knocking and scare the ...... out of ya.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Rattle does discribe it better. Yeah she does have a bit more pep than I am used to I thought it was the zf5 trans but you are probably right it almost seems like it has a powerband at 1750-2000 rpms and she gets it. Thanks guys you put my worry to rest. My 92 is real sluggish do you think I can advance the timing on it a couple of teeth to get more spunk?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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yes.they shouldn't sound like a big block gasser.
do this to your E40D truck first:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ions-only.html

then try this next:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...ml#post9927448

then that '92 will have the upper hand over your '90.
unless you got big tires and stock gears,and non turbo.then there's only so much hope getting them to compare.
you'll like the gains though.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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not a couple of teeth, a couple of degrees!
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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not a couple of teeth, a couple of degrees!
Yes! Just tilt the pump towards the passenger side of the truck about halfa dimes width at a time until it sounds like your other truck. Never turn the pumpwhile its running, shut it down loosen the nuts on the pump, tipit and tighten.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 84-6.9L
Yes! Just tilt the pump towards the passenger side of the truck about halfa dimes width at a time until it sounds like your other truck. Never turn the pumpwhile its running, shut it down loosen the nuts on the pump, tipit and tighten.
Which is all kinds of fun leaning over a hot engine to loosen and tighten those 3 pump mounting bolts. A timing adapter is a real bug help, get an initial reading and then gives you an idea of how much is needed to move to be at the correct setpoint.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 01:42 AM
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Well the 88 is having issues again, it is having problems with cold starts I found a leak in the fuel filter and replaced it with the one piece unit with the built in drain, blead the air out started it up drove it up to washington to pick up a trailer hauled great, it sat for a couple of days went to start wouldn't start pluged it in for 2 hours started right up. I think my GP's are toast if my timing is too advanced will it fry my GP's?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Well the 88 is having issues again, it is having problems with cold starts I found a leak in the fuel filter and replaced it with the one piece unit with the built in drain, blead the air out started it up drove it up to washington to pick up a trailer hauled great, it sat for a couple of days went to start wouldn't start pluged it in for 2 hours started right up. I think my GP's are toast if my timing is too advanced will it fry my GP's?
Yes it will increase cylinder temps and ruin the glow plugs, pull some out and take a look and the ends.
 
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