Hello all
Im looking at a 2004 f350 ccsb Harley edition 6.0 with 66xxx miles on it and Im new to the 6.0s and i have an idea of what to look for, this truck has an exhaust, looks like a 6" lift and 38" toyo mt's.

2004 Ford F350 Harley Davidson

Their asking $27k and some change, and I looked it up on kelley blue book, and it says $29k is what it should go for from a dealer..

Kelley Blue Book

So the point of this thread is,
1 is this a good deal? I know is an 04 but its immaculate shape interior is perfect no rips or anything ect

2 what do i look for? I know that 6.0s have their problems, like the egr, and popping head gaskets, but if I do the mods and upgrades, they can be pretty reliable, and I dont plan to hot rod it too much, and Im not really going to tow with it. I plan to do simple things, like 1 tuner, larger injectors, and a nice aftermarket turbo, plus the egr delete kit and stuff like that. I really just want a nice truck for on my week off and I fell in love with this truck, but I dont want pretty truck syndrome lol

 

As far as good deal, I havent been on the scene long enough to know. I would take the VIN to a Ford Dealer and have them pull the Oasis report (this shows all work that Ford has done to the vehicle under warranty). I would also take a scanguage 2 or other type of live data code reader and take it for a good long test drive to check the FICM health, no more than 15 degree delta between coolant and oil temps, battery voltage, just various health issues which can be picked up by having one of these readers hooked up to the OBDII port. I did run the vin on autotrader and you can follow the link to it. It does get a high score but it also appears to have been or is being a rental vehicle. Hope this gives you a little heads up. Pretty sure some of the more experienced owners will chime in with more advice. About the only sure advice I can give you is to gain all the information you can about the said vehicle and 6.0's in general, I have owned my first 6.0 and diesel for a year and let me tell you it is a totally different animal. I didnt come across this site until I had an issue with mine, I wished I had researched more but all in all I am satisfied with my purchase. I know locations and different options carry different prices but to give you something to go on other than a book value, I gave 15k for a 2005 Lariat 6.0 CC FX4 with 152,000 miles on it, full ranch hand front end, leveling kit, gooseneck hitch and 35" tires. I know extras really dont add to the cost of a vehicle from an aftermarket standpoint but I feel I got a good deal on mine, yes I have had a few hiccups along the way but that comes with the territory. Good luck on this truck or whichever one you end up with. Knowledge Knowledge Knowledge is the key.

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I would try to talk them down slightly more with the current gas prices.

 

Fuel price is not a concern, as I work in north Dakota and gross over 100k/year and this will only be my toy on my week off and I guess for a week it'll my daily lol but im also not gonna get too crazy with it, prolly just fix all the issues like the egr delete and change headgaskets and stud it, gauges tranny cooler nice oil cooler ect. I just want to know if im more paying for the lift and tires lol

 

You better have a pretty fat wallet.

 

Whys that?

 

It's been my experience that dealers tend to jack up the price for the aftermarket stuff when they sell a vehicle but they dont really give you any extra for it if you are selling it to them. Im gonna go out on a limb and say you should be able to get one alot cheaper but then again Im not an expert on the value of these trucks, only my own personal experience. From that being said, if there is something about the truck that is pulling you to it there probably isnt much that would make you choose otherwise. IMHO for that kind of money, even though it is low mileage, I think you could be getting an 06-07 model for around the same price. Keep in mind you are fixing to dump a few grand on it on top of the selling price. Now you stated you make pretty good money, I think I do ok but a few grand is still a few grand.

 

Thank you for your responses Mark, I have considered a newer truck, but I also like the Harley Davidson editions, and I know that Im just paying for the name, but heres an 06 in the same area that is completely stock

2006 F-350 Lariet

now by the time i add a lift thats about 1k, tires are around 1500, wheels that I like, 6-700, and exhaust would be around 600, so theres around 4k that I would have to do anyways to get it where i want it anyways lol, and no egr delete kit or nothing. Im not gonna lie, it would be a little bit of a show truck, but I would still use it as a truck, just not very often lol

 

It seems that you pretty much have your mind made up. I cant argue with you on the cost of adding the stuff you want to the 06 whereas the 04 pretty much has it, as far as the lift and wheels anyway. But on the other hand, they are charging a 2006-2007 price for a 2004 truck just because it has a lift and wheels which you wouldnt get hardly any payback out of if you sold it later on. Kind of a catch 22 on that. IMO would rather have a newer truck, even though it has roughly 20k more miles on it but one thing to consider, with the 6.0L engines by the time the 06-07 years rolled out, alot of the kinks with these engines were ironed out. That being said, later models still suffer some weaknesses that the older models dont and vise versa but I would still rather put my money in a newer truck and add from there knowing that yeah I may have to go out and buy wheels and a lift I like but I may not have to do as much bullet proofing on the engine. Either way you go, your going to be spending money to get it like you want, it seems like you want to end up with a vehicle that is you. I have owned trucks in the past and even though they had wheels and such already, I ended up eventually spending money on different ones anyway. Its your buck, go for whats you and not anyone else, just be informed and make the best decision not just the decision that seems best at the moment. Good luck.

 

I could never understand why people buy a newer diesel to just cruise around in and it turns into a pavement princess, most stress it will see is moving their buddys couch or fridge

maybe it just aggrivates me because I am jealous, oh well

now if I was to make a pavement princess it would be a 79 f250 highboy like whats in your signature

well anyways I didnt look at the link but if you plan on tuning it do the stock ford headgaskets with arp studs, sounds like your going with the external oil cooler when you do your egr delete? and since its an 06 if the stc fitting has not been upgraded do that aswell, and put a coolant filter on, scan gauge 2 is also a good investment

 

If it was just going to be a toy then what I would do is wait until I ran across someone that wants to dump their truck for practically nothing because of some problem and they didn't educate themselves enough. I know it is bad to take advantage of people like that but hey, people need to educate themselves. Admittedly, it might take a while to find something like that.

 

Ok so the opinion is that its a bit much and I have pretty truck syndrome, lol. This wont be a total pavement pounder, ill take it out into the woods and such, but im gonna keep it a nice truck no matter what I get, I just want a nice newer truck, while im single and don't have any bills. And Mark, your right that I want a truck that'll be me, and that 04 is me, all it needs is some road rhino bumpers lol

So if I were to get financing for this truck, how much should I offer?

 

I haven't owned my 6.0 for very long, but I love the crap out of it. But the first thing I did after I bought it was get the egr delete put in, then bought an aftermarket turbo (Garrett Powermax), and put an H&S turner to it.

Like mentioned before I would get an oasis report or try to find out what mods have been done besides a lift and tires (i.e. gears, arp studs, etc.) no need to redo stuff that has already been done. I wish I had thought of that prior to buying my 6.0, it has had a fair amount of mods done, but now I wonder if I already have arp studs or still need to get some. So I think a detailed service list is parmount to buying it IMHO.

Also like mentioned before, aftermarket parts brings absolutely no trade-in value at the dealers, and some like Carmax will even derate the vehicle because of lifts and such due to the decreased market for such a vehicle. So I would definitely talk them down, because they didn't pay for it and didn't give anyone anything for it on the trade-in.

Wish you luck. Also it is cheaper to lift on 04 Ford than an 06 Ford. 04 still had the leaf springs, and 05 and later had coil springs. So to lift the 06 will cost a lot more than the 1k that you mentioned (which is actually $1,600 with no special shocks), more along the lines of $4K. And my 37 toyos were $525 each with road hazard, so tires ~$2K+.

Good luck

 

Ok that's what I was thinking, what would you offer on it?

 

You might want to check out NADA prices. Most banks loan off of this amount and not Kelly Blue Book. Assuming I input all of the correct information, I got a clean trade-in value of $21,100 and a Clean Retail price of $24,925. So I would start somewhere between those two numbers, if they say no, you can always go up. Of course those prices vary between geographical locations.

Oh and by the way that is no 4" lift on that truck. It has 38" Toyos and the wheel wells have more clearance than my truck which has a 8" lift, so I would say it has at least an 8" probably a 10" lift and maybe a 12".