Borg-Warner transfer cases...?
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This is a 1345:
From my shop manuals, it's listed apps are Bronco and F250/350.
The 1356 was not factory installed until 87, it should not be found under an 80-86, unless it has been swapped.
The 1345 was fixed yoke only, while the 1356 which is the standard across the line transfer case 88+(I have seen a few 87 F150's with np208's) was available both fixed and slip, manual and electric shift.
The 208 was available in fixed and slip yoke forms, I have seen both styles in the same year, same engine/trans/body configuration trucks, so I don't really know what made the decision on what truck got which style.
From my shop manuals, it's listed apps are Bronco and F250/350.
The 1356 was not factory installed until 87, it should not be found under an 80-86, unless it has been swapped.
The 1345 was fixed yoke only, while the 1356 which is the standard across the line transfer case 88+(I have seen a few 87 F150's with np208's) was available both fixed and slip, manual and electric shift.
The 208 was available in fixed and slip yoke forms, I have seen both styles in the same year, same engine/trans/body configuration trucks, so I don't really know what made the decision on what truck got which style.
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Thats intersting F834. Everything you mentioned is good tough quality parts though. The Sterling 10.25 is a good stout axle. I cant help , but , wonder myself if they were using it back then. Before the 10.25 they used the Dana 60 out back. Someone could have needed a new axle and p/u'd that one at a salvage. Then the front axle raises questions too. I am sure if the truck had a salvage title you would have known about that. Maybe someone did do a cab swap on it.
Great link to add in by the way!
Great link to add in by the way!
Ford 10.25 & 10.50-Inch Axle Tips - Four Wheeler Magazine
I re-checked all of my vin #'s, and the paper title, door sticker, windshield stamped plate and frame stamp all match. The door sticker says it was manufactured in Canada in February 1986. So I guess There has been no funny business there. The sterling axle is probably the correct one, but also probably not the original one. The door sticker has an axle code of "C5" which would be a limited slip with 4.10's. Now, either the axle has been replaced with a non-LS, or the clutches are so shot that it is now behaving like an open carrier. Don't know which.
The Front axel is a little puzzling. The Dana Spicer Bill of Materials number stamped on the axel tube is 610255-2, which identifies it as this:
610255 FORD 60 FRONT 1986-88 F-350 MONOBEAM DRW
...according to this web resource:
Dana/Spicer Bill Of Material Numbers
However, I remember reading that 1985-1991 D 60's had kingpins, and 1992 and later were ball joint types. All this tells me is that you can't believe everything you read on the internet! Another detail is the Dana BOM code above says it's for DRW, mine is not a dually! It is a SRW.... unless the DRW rear axle was swapped out for an SRW (see above) which is a possibility because the bed does not match the front half of the truck. So maybe it used to be DRW??? The rim studs up front are not for DRW rims though, don't know if this can be changed easily or not.
OK, I am waaaay off topic, sorry!
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F834, the link you supplied is saying something else that I am finding somewhat contradicting. I have always heard that all Ford T cases regardless of which one are interchangable with all Ford trannys. The bolt pattern is supposedly the same regardless of what tranny T case combo out there. However, in the link you provided on pg 1 it is saying that the 1354 has a 32 spline count and all others have a 31 spline count. If this is really the case then what I have been told is false.
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F834, the link you supplied is saying something else that I am finding somewhat contradicting. I have always heard that all Ford T cases regardless of which one are interchangable with all Ford trannys. The bolt pattern is supposedly the same regardless of what tranny T case combo out there. However, in the link you provided on pg 1 it is saying that the 1354 has a 32 spline count and all others have a 31 spline count. If this is really the case then what I have been told is false.
I'm not seeing where it says the 1356 has 32 splines, but the BW 1345's that have 32 splines came in 1988-1991 F series... 1988 being the same year they started using ZF's! Kind of looks to me like up to 1987 they were all 31 spline, then things got complicated. Look at the chart, 31, 32, 34 and 24 spline inputs depending on the brand and year!
Good catch, I think you might have saved me a whale of a headache over 1 spline! I'll check into this a bit more, but obviously they are not all interchangeable...
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The difference in splines is on the output, not the input, all Ford inputs are 31 spline, a 1345, 205, 208, heck, even a 203 will bolt on a ZF. The 31 vs 32 output is slip vs fixed, fixed yoke is 32 spline, same as a NP205, and slip is 31, the same as the input, if you remove the extension housing on a 1356, you can slide another ford fullsize case on the output shaft no problem, making a cheap, but long doubler.
I find it strange for a listing to show a '45 as 31 spline though, I don't believe a slip yoke one exists.
I find it strange for a listing to show a '45 as 31 spline though, I don't believe a slip yoke one exists.
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