Notices

seems sluggish

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:29 PM
  #1  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
seems sluggish

hi, i'm looking for a little insight. i got a 83 f-250 with a 300, offy c, edelbrock 600, efi manifolds, hi flo cat and 2.5'' exhaust. it also has a np435 and 4.11s. it seems to work well on the flat and in all gears but 4th. on even a small highway incline it seems almost gutless in 4th gear. I find this odd with the 4.11s. Any input would be great! Thanks
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:04 AM
  #2  
AbandonedBronco's Avatar
AbandonedBronco
Moderator
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,987
Likes: 104
From: Boise, Idaho
Club FTE Gold Member
What speeds are you driving at when you have this issue, and what size tires do you have?
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:49 AM
  #3  
2hole's Avatar
2hole
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
4.11s should bedoing around 70 at 3000 so sounds like either timing, too much fuel or not enough
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 05:50 PM
  #4  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
tires, 235/85/r16. i did alot of messing with the timing, 2nd new distrubtor, 1st sheared off a gear. and speed varies if i am at 65 on a small hill it'll stay there or only drop like 5mph, less it will drop more, almost seems like a dead spot floor it and no change in rpm or speed
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 06:33 PM
  #5  
AbandonedBronco's Avatar
AbandonedBronco
Moderator
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,987
Likes: 104
From: Boise, Idaho
Club FTE Gold Member
235 85R16s are the same as 32" tires. That'd put you at 2850 RPMs at 65mph. I agree, you should have plenty of power at that point. (I was curious about tires in case you were getting out of your RPM range with the 4.11s).
What transmission do you have? Is 4th a 1:1 or an overdrive?

How old is the cat? Is it plugged? (I know you said it was high flow so I imagine new-er).

Are you certain the vacuum advance is working?

Is the carburetor tuned correctly?

Plugged fuel filter?
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:32 PM
  #6  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
np 435 sp it should be 1:1, vacuum advance works, dist. is only 4 months old, it does move when ya give it gas, cats like 2 years old, but 1st carb i used was dumping fuel, could that have ruined it? tuning wise the plugs are light brown and only smokes after several days of sitting. maybe valve seals, but no smoke when running normal.
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:43 PM
  #7  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
i was thinking, 4.11s were too much gear for the combo of tranny and tire size i have, keeping me out of my ideal rpm range, 3rd gear 35mph i'm at like 3000rpm
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:04 PM
  #8  
JoeDaf's Avatar
JoeDaf
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
I'm having the same problem. I have the offy dp with an edelbrock 600. I'm running 31s with the 4 speed and 4.11s and granny through 3rd its beast but when i hit 4th there's low power i can hear the 4 barrel kicked in but not much pull. It's running 2000rpm at 55.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:16 PM
  #9  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
yea i hear mine opening to, since ya can't adjust a edelbrock to open how ya want it to. is it opening far enough at 2000 rpm, i noticed in 3rd gear and 3000rpm ya really hear it but at 2000 rpm not so much
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:41 PM
  #10  
JoeDaf's Avatar
JoeDaf
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
oh its opening all the way its manual secondaries so when i push it to the floor its all the way open also. when i kick it in third at 1500 it pulls hard
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:07 PM
  #11  
fordman75's Avatar
fordman75
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,298
Likes: 47
From: South central, Minnesota
Did you recurve your distributor or just throw in a reman'd one?
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:07 PM
  #12  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
yea me too, great in 3rd not so great in 4th. just wish someone could make sense of this for me
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:09 PM
  #13  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
reman, no recurve
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:11 PM
  #14  
fordman75's Avatar
fordman75
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,298
Likes: 47
From: South central, Minnesota
You did a lot of mods to the engine. You need to recurve the distributor to take advantage of the mods.


Here's a good link. It's for a big block but same basic info.
http://www.reincarnation-automotive....ons_index.html
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:12 PM
  #15  
ajd17872's Avatar
ajd17872
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
i do have a mr. gasket re curve kit, 2 springs.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE