Coolant on EGR Valve
#1
Coolant on EGR Valve
We have a total of 6 trucks with 6.0L engines, and a great mechanic but with more experience in bigger Cat, Komatsu, and Cummins engines. One of our '03 F350s suffered an EGR cooler failure that led to both heads cracking due to overheating. The EGR cooler and heads have both been replaced, along with all the injectors, as over half of them were bad too. The EGR valve was thoroughly cleaned, and the extensive goop in the intake manifold was also cleaned out with Clean Green and a power washer. He knew there may well be additional problems due to the catastrophic failure that would not be found until it was run again. After getting it all back together, he ran it for a few minutes. It ran smoothly but the exhaust had a lot of white smoke in it, though it didn't particularly smell of burnt coolant. After running it that long, he pulled the EGR valve and found coolant on it. He has since pressure tested the heads (in place) and the EGR cooler (on the bench) and found no leaks. Where else could it be coming from? Is the intake manifold the likely culprit?
#2
where else? why my dear sir, did he check the oil cooler and hpop? chances are, it's a busted oil cooler. ford procedures recommend tat when egr cooler is changed, oil cooler should be changed as well, or vice versa.
try looking at tat as well as the dummy plugs / standplugs. ford has an updated part.
all the best, pal! i'm sure the other guys will chime in later.
try looking at tat as well as the dummy plugs / standplugs. ford has an updated part.
all the best, pal! i'm sure the other guys will chime in later.
#3
Oil cooler
Thank you, I have had a hard time convincing him he needs to look at the oil cooler, because on most engines the cooler has no way to put coolant into the combustion/exhaust system, but from my reading that is not true with this engine. It can do so without doing it through the EGR cooler. Am I correct?
#4
No, that's incorrect. A failed oil cooler by itself cannot cause coolant to enter the combustion chamber on this engine.
Though it is true that the oil cooler should be changed when an EGR cooler fails. Often what happens is clogged coolant passages in the oil cooler restrict flow downstream to the EGR cooler, which causes the failure due to flash boiling of the coolant.
Could be what's being seen coming out of the pipe is residual that will burn off.
Though it is true that the oil cooler should be changed when an EGR cooler fails. Often what happens is clogged coolant passages in the oil cooler restrict flow downstream to the EGR cooler, which causes the failure due to flash boiling of the coolant.
Could be what's being seen coming out of the pipe is residual that will burn off.
Last edited by SteveBricks; 01-17-2012 at 01:31 PM.
#5
there are several things u can do if u dnt wanna have any problems,
1. get coolant filters for all of ur trucks
2. get scangauge2's and montiro ECT and EOT
3. flush gold crappy coolant out and fill with cat ec-1 rated elc
4. do an egr delete and new oil cooler(if cooler is needed)
5. keep ECT and EOT delta under 10*
6. install the blue spring update(will save any injectors from going bad again.
7. also make sure u use OEM filters only.
did u say that u have 6 6.0's? bulletproof 'em if u hav the money to do it.
1. get coolant filters for all of ur trucks
2. get scangauge2's and montiro ECT and EOT
3. flush gold crappy coolant out and fill with cat ec-1 rated elc
4. do an egr delete and new oil cooler(if cooler is needed)
5. keep ECT and EOT delta under 10*
6. install the blue spring update(will save any injectors from going bad again.
7. also make sure u use OEM filters only.
did u say that u have 6 6.0's? bulletproof 'em if u hav the money to do it.
#6
One of our '03 F350s suffered an EGR cooler failure that led to both heads cracking due to overheating. The EGR cooler and heads have both been replaced, along with all the injectors, as over half of them were bad too. he ran it for a few minutes. It ran smoothly but the exhaust had a lot of white smoke in it....... After running it that long, he pulled the EGR valve and found coolant on it.
so i think you are ok
#7
there are several things u can do if u dnt wanna have any problems,
1. get coolant filters for all of ur trucks
2. get scangauge2's and montiro ECT and EOT
3. flush gold crappy coolant out and fill with cat ec-1 rated elc
4. do an egr delete and new oil cooler(if cooler is needed)
5. keep ECT and EOT delta under 10*
6. install the blue spring update(will save any injectors from going bad again.
7. also make sure u use OEM filters only.
did u say that u have 6 6.0's? bulletproof 'em if u hav the money to do it.
1. get coolant filters for all of ur trucks
2. get scangauge2's and montiro ECT and EOT
3. flush gold crappy coolant out and fill with cat ec-1 rated elc
4. do an egr delete and new oil cooler(if cooler is needed)
5. keep ECT and EOT delta under 10*
6. install the blue spring update(will save any injectors from going bad again.
7. also make sure u use OEM filters only.
did u say that u have 6 6.0's? bulletproof 'em if u hav the money to do it.
4. EGR delete is deleting the messenger for a plugged oil cooler and if you live where smog emissions and equipment are checked you can be in deep doodoo.
5. Max delta for ect/eot is 15 degrees per Ford. Many people have reported running 12 to 13 degrees for years with no pproblems.
6. Fresh oil and correct filters also play a big part in an injectors life.
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#8
No, that's incorrect. A failed oil cooler by itself cannot cause coolant to enter the combustion chamber on this engine.
Though it is true that the oil cooler should be changed when an EGR cooler fails. Often what happens is clogged coolant passages in the oil cooler restrict flow downstream to the EGR cooler, which causes the failure due to flash boiling of the coolant.
Could be what's being seen coming out of the pipe is residual that will burn off.
Though it is true that the oil cooler should be changed when an EGR cooler fails. Often what happens is clogged coolant passages in the oil cooler restrict flow downstream to the EGR cooler, which causes the failure due to flash boiling of the coolant.
Could be what's being seen coming out of the pipe is residual that will burn off.
I would get that Oil cooler changed ASAP because it more than likely cause the egr cooler to Burn up and blow out
And it will burn the egr cooler up again if you dont get that oil cooler changed
The Oil Cooler & EGR Cooler are plumbed in a series starting with the oil cooler then the coolant goes to the EGR Cooler ONLY IF the OIL cooler isnt plugged
Get that Oil cooler changed ASAP and you should be fine Since 03 round coolers are the Good Ones Beleive it or not
So with that said I bet your OIL Cooler is Plugged Solid
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