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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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SR?? HPOP

Has anyboby heard of this HPOP? It might be SR1, I forget what Jonathan at Beans called it. He indicated that it was better then the terminator.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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SRP1?

Last I heard they are being revised but not 100% on that. May have it resolved by now. Jim had a couple but not sure if he still does. They were making some good numbers but I heard of a few odd failures.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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Geez Glenn, what are you trying to run, massive single-shot stage 3's?

I think the adrenaline is plenty good for your baby beans and D66.

But if you do upgrade I'll take that adrenaline off your hands. lol
 
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Its a long story but my baby beans I think are stage 1's. With Tony's chip and Beans I can smoke out the road and Jonathan at Beans said that would be impossible with 130's, no matter how the chip was tuned. Also, Jonathan said that because I'm throwing code P1211 all the time he doesn't think the adrenaline is keeping up. I watch it on the scan gauge and it seems to me that its doing a great job. He also mentioned the SR HPOP being good and I said I heard the terminator was better. Confusing
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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The gauge doesn't lie... I think he's trying to sell you a hpop, not help you out.

The specific tuning and how much the engine is lugged has a lot to do with smoke. Most of the time mine doesn't smoke much but if the conditions are right I can really roll it.

The adrenaline is supposed to flow better than a 17* and supposedly a modded 17* like terminator sells, and it should be able to keep up with Stage II's, let alone stage I's or baby beans...
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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Glenn your tuning must be asking for more oil than can be delivered. That what pops that 1211 code. There are a number of factors involved and I don't know what TW tuning is calling for as far as oil. Evidently it must be pretty high. If you don't have an odd idle issue or anything your LPOP must be up to snuff. In any case once you get all your ducks in a row as far as a HPOP your tuning needs to ,as you know, match your components. So some new tuning is in order too.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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My t500 will keep up with the oil thirsty AD's I put in mine. Before the hpop swap it would throw the codes left and right and would get real Smokey and loose some power above half throttle. After the swap alot less smoke and pulls to redline.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:59 AM
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What were some of the codes you were throwing bad12jr?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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I was throwing the P1211 quite a bit with stage 1's and the stock 15*. Now with my 2's and modded 17* I never set the 1211 code, even though it does drop pressure slightly when it's warm.

Glenn, what max duty cycle are you seeing on a WOT run? I actually wonder if you don't have stage 1's or even larger nozzles b/c a 130cc and 160cc injector with stock nozzles wouldn't make too much difference in the smoke department. It'd be nice if you could send one or the whole set to Jim to flow test them and see what they really are.

What kind of injector pulsewidth are you seeing at WOT in your tow tune? You can view this on the Scan Gauge. It's not 100% accurate, but will give us an idea of how much fuel the tuning is requesting.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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I was getting a 1211 and 1212 iirc
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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The SRP1 is the 'new' Stealth pump from Stecher. There have been some problems with them, apprently enough that Gary is updating the design to reduce the number of failures.
The new improved model is supposed to be available early this year (2012).
My first SRP1 crapped out after about 500 miles. It was replaced under warranty, but it took over a month. So far the 2nd pump seems to be doing
fine... fingers are crossed.
The T500 is from Joey @ Terminator Engineering. Lot's of guys running this pump with good results. Joey has excellent customer service.
The T1000 should be out soon. This is supposed to flow more oil than the T500.
It's kinda frustrating that there's no real data available for any of the aftermarket pumps, nor is there any side-by-side comparitive analysis data available to help us decide.

Glenn, it seems that the Adrenaline should be fine for your set up. Like others have said, maybe it's the tuning?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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It's hard to believe that the tuning is just wrong. He's been through several tries with Tony's tunes and now it appears he's trying Bean's tunes.

It's almost like something about his setup isn't what it was supposed to be causing the tuning to be off when he tells them what he has. Like if you install stage 2's and run them on stage 1 tuning. The pulse width is too long causing more smoke and more HPO is needed with the longer pulse width, which may be causing the 1211.

Thing is, 160cc stage 1's and 130cc Baby Beans should take relatively the same tune. Larger nozzles would need less pulse width, so if you tune larger nozzles like you would stock nozzles, it would smoke quite a bit more b/c you don't need as much pulse width to empty the same amount of fuel.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
I was throwing the P1211 quite a bit with stage 1's and the stock 15*.
I must be lucky then so for with the satgeI's and my 15* I can't set a code I've tried too. WOT i see 2100-2200 at 39% does that sound right?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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I must be lucky then so for with the satgeI's and my 15* I can't set a code I've tried too. WOT i see 2100-2200 at 39% does that sound right?
Sounds pretty low. Kinda sounds like the tuner is calling for the low ICP to keep from setting the 1211. The 39% duty cycle says it's got a little more oil to give, but you should be calling for more than 2200psi. You really want closer to 3000psi.. If it was tapped out you'd see 50%+. You could always ask your tuner what he's calling for in the tune and ask him to call for more ICP. I notice a pretty nice difference between calling for 2600 psi and asking for 3000psi.

I'd bet money if your tuner calls for 3000psi, you'd start setting the P1211 code.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Now that you say that he did ask me if I was still running the stock pump. I'll be calling him back Monday
 
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