2012 Oil Pan Change - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums



6.7L Power Stroke Diesel 2011-current Ford Powerstroke 6.7 L turbo diesel engine

2012 Oil Pan Change

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-02-2012, 12:21 PM
lexustbs's Avatar
lexustbs lexustbs is offline
Elder User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 817
lexustbs is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.lexustbs is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
2012 Oil Pan Change

Well, I guess the plastic oil pan for 2011 was just not a good idea. The plastic one twist plug is gone too. This truck came in to our lot over the holidays so I will do a detailed inspection tomorrow and report back with other changes. This is a 2012 6.7 F-250 XLT.


Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-02-2012, 12:45 PM
kper05's Avatar
kper05 kper05 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: AL
Posts: 5,335
kper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant future
Yeah, I'm interested in Ford's reasoning for the change.
I'm keeping mine though. I like the plastic quarter turn plug.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-02-2012, 01:29 PM
Hdslider's Avatar
Hdslider Hdslider is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Roll Tide, Roll
Posts: 4,637
Hdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputationHdslider has a superb reputation
That makes another. I would think the nylon pan would dissipate heat quicker. As well as less noise. $$$$$
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-02-2012, 01:30 PM
biz4two's Avatar
biz4two biz4two is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 5,679
biz4two has a great reputation on FTE.biz4two has a great reputation on FTE.biz4two has a great reputation on FTE.biz4two has a great reputation on FTE.
Arrow

Yeah...very interesting! Hummm.....



biz
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-02-2012, 04:10 PM
EpicCowlick's Avatar
EpicCowlick EpicCowlick is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: North of Salt Lake City
Posts: 4,685
EpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant futureEpicCowlick has a brilliant future
I love my quarter turn plug! I never have to remember what wrench to use under the truck.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-02-2012, 04:18 PM
Dim Sum's Avatar
Dim Sum Dim Sum is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 1,559
Dim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant futureDim Sum has a brilliant future
I'm pretty disappointed in Ford if they caved b/c of public opinion.

I do feel the steel pan is several steps backwards unless there's a real reason to need stamped steel.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-02-2012, 04:58 PM
huntindog huntindog is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 172
huntindog is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Back when this came up before, I felt and stated that Ford's primary concern was cost. The plastic pan was said to be 30-35% cheaper than metal. The plastic pan sells for over $300!! So assuming that Ford keeps consistant margins on parts, that would put a metal pan in the $400ish range!!

It is now said that the new metal pan is $5 cheaper than the plastic pan.

So I figure that all that other hi tech talk about the attributes of the plastic pan was just marketing.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear Ford touting the new metal pan as being superior. Marketing again.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-02-2012, 05:41 PM
lexustbs's Avatar
lexustbs lexustbs is offline
Elder User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 817
lexustbs is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.lexustbs is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Anybody know how many quarts a 2012 takes to change the oil? Still 13?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-02-2012, 06:09 PM
jaybread jaybread is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 290
jaybread is starting off with a positive reputation.
I bet the metal pan is heavier and lowers the center of gravity for better handling?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-02-2012, 06:53 PM
Sgt93 Sgt93 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Retired'ville
Posts: 3,496
Sgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant futureSgt93 has a brilliant future
I think the metal pan adds 20 HP and 70 lbs TQ.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-02-2012, 06:53 PM
ruschejj's Avatar
ruschejj ruschejj is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Greenwood, SC
Posts: 6,524
ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.ruschejj has a spectacular reputation.
It is likely a silly issue like a supplier problem/cost/raw materiel issue. I would think that with the knowledgeable people that visit this forum, we would know about it if it were a quality or engineering issue.

I would bet the supplier raised the price or ran into problems getting the quantity manufactured according to Ford's demands.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-02-2012, 06:59 PM
Troy Buenger's Avatar
Troy Buenger Troy Buenger is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 2,842
Troy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to beholdTroy Buenger is a splendid one to behold
I don't know why Ford made the oil pan in two pieces in the first place.... This requires making two pieces, a upper and a lower (probably from two different suppliers and requiring casting tooling and injection molding tooling to produce these two items) a gasket, X - amount of bolts and the additional labor to assemble these two pieces.

If Ford was pursuing a cost reduction project you would think that they would just cast the oil pan out of one piece and therefore eliminate the extra materials and labor and could still manage the NVH design requirements.

My opinion for this change was the publics perception of a plastic oil pan with a plastic drain plug wasn't a favorable one.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-02-2012, 08:04 PM
jaybread jaybread is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 290
jaybread is starting off with a positive reputation.
My guess is 99.9% of SuperDuty owners do not know what the oil pan is made of.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-02-2012, 10:25 PM
mrjc's Avatar
mrjc mrjc is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 474
mrjc has a good reputation on FTE.mrjc has a good reputation on FTE.mrjc has a good reputation on FTE.
pan

I just went at looked at mine (2012 built last month) and it is metal painted black with the metal plug. I like the yellow plastic plug.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-02-2012, 10:30 PM
kper05's Avatar
kper05 kper05 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: AL
Posts: 5,335
kper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant futurekper05 has a brilliant future
Have to think about fleets.
There are lots of fleet vehicles.
The drivers may not know/care but the maintenance crew will know what's under the x # of trucks they maintain.
Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Replacing the rear speakers in a 2010 Regular Cab propellerhead Audio & Video Systems, Navigation, Satellite Radio & Mobile Electronics 15 04-25-2017 12:28 PM
78/79 RestoMod Raleigh1 1978 - 1996 Big Bronco 682 03-18-2016 01:29 PM
2012 excursion released! Snowseeker Excursion - King of SUVs 5 10-27-2011 12:48 PM
My new 2004 F-350 6.0L Crew Cab (photos) F350JOHN 1999 to 2016 Super Duty 34 12-14-2010 10:02 PM
Look what i found in my e40d pan this morning rartuin270 1968-2013 Full Size Vans 2 07-07-2009 07:43 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums >

Tags
2012, 67, 67l, diesel, diesels, engine, f250, ford, oil, pan, plug, powerstroke, replacement, sump, triton, v10

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 PM.


 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
What's your question?
Send